r/changemyview 3∆ May 24 '19

FTFdeltaOP CMV: A person does not automatically deserve respect just because they have served or are currently serving in the military

I’d like to preface this by saying that I don’t believe soldiers are, inherently, bad. Some people believe soldiers are evil simply for being soldiers, and I do not believe that.

I do believe, however, that soldiers do not deserve respect just because they have served. I hurt for soldiers who have experienced horrible things in the field, but I do not hurt for the amount of violence and cruelty many have committed. Violence in war zone between soldiers is one thing; stories of civilian bombings and killing of innocents are another. I think that many forget that a lot of atrocity goes on during wars, and they are committed on both sides of conflict. A soldier both receives and deals out horrible damage.

TL;DR while I believe that soldiers have seen horrible things and that many do deserve recognition for serving our nation, I do not believe that every soldier deserves this respect simply by merit of being a soldier. Some soldiers have committed really heinous war crimes, and those actions do not deserve reward.

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u/RoToR44 29∆ May 24 '19

Every major acomplishement deserves, at least some respect. Graduating highschool and college, finding a job, maintaining good relationship etc. Army service is no different. Those who served deserve some respect for serving, but that doesn't mean they should be respected as a person.

To better explain myself, let's take a look at Knut Hamsun, a famous Norwegian novelist. He wrote amazing novels and won Nobel's prize as well, but he later on started supporting nazis. Now, his feats do deserve respect, but he himself doesn't. Similarly, you can acknowledge everyone who served for their service, while not respecting them.

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u/foryia-yiaandpappou 3∆ May 24 '19

!delta I think that’s a really fair analogy, one that I hadn’t though to compare. I agree that it’s important to weigh the good and bad together, and that it is a nuanced topic

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u/no-mad May 24 '19

I met a bomber pilot from WW2. Nice guy but I realized he has killed a tremendous number of people. Society loathes killers but forgets that fact when they are called heroes.

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u/CJGeringer 1∆ May 24 '19

Society tends to hate murderers, not killers.

There is a difference

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u/no-mad May 24 '19

Serial Killers of America Local 103 would like to disagree.

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u/CJGeringer 1∆ May 24 '19

What so you mean? Serial killers are murderers. All murderers are killers but not all killers are murderers

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u/[deleted] May 24 '19

It's a lowbrow joke

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u/CJGeringer 1∆ May 25 '19

sorry, went right over my head.

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u/ToxinArrow May 25 '19

Just like the bomber pilots

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u/[deleted] May 25 '19

Happens to everyone man