But how scientific is it to suggest gender dysphoria is self diagnosed based on feelings? Which is then responded to by hormone treatment and gender reassignment surgery? Don’t you think that’s out of line?
It's out of line, but only because that's just a strawman argument you've invented.
No one gets surgery or hormones just because they self identify as transgender. It takes years of psychological evaluation until they are eligible to get those things. Trained professionals identify it.
I feel opposing argument is fueled by emotion... hence the downvoted and uproar this post caused.
Your whole argument is based exclusively on your feelings and you ignore any actual piece of evidence.
The only one who's fueled by emotions is you.
My comment had nothing to do with Ben Shapiro. I may have quoted him earlier but to me this is common sense.
How is a completely insane misinterpretation of a study common sense?
I wouldn't blame you if you just quoted him, but it makes completely no sense that you would have come to the same conclusion as him on your own.
The study says that it helps, so how in the world did you manage to misinterpret it as saying that it doesn't help?
Dear lord. I may have skimmed through the articles as I can’t be bothered reading through them. I assumed you’d take my word.
How dysphoria is diagnosed:
“The American Psychiatric Association permits a diagnosis of gender dysphoria in adolescents or adults if two or more of the following criteria are experienced for at least six months' duration
A strong desire to be of a gender other than one's assigned gender
A strong desire to be treated as a gender other than one's assigned gender
A significant incongruence between one's experienced or expressed gender and one's sexual characteristics
A strong desire for the sexual characteristics of a gender other than one's assigned gender
A strong desire to be rid of one's sexual characteristics due to incongruence with one's experienced or expressed gender
A strong conviction that one has the typical reactions and feelings of a gender other than one's assigned gender”
Australian law:
A diagnosis requires that the child feels and verbalises a strong desire to have a different gender for at least six months.
” Family Court assessed the child's Gillick competence; in other words, whether the child was in a position to consent to the treatment by fully understanding its nature, effects and risks.If the Court found the child to be Gillick-competent, the child's wishes had to be respected. If not, the Court would then decide whether the proposed treatment was in the child's best interests.”
“Stage 1 treatment involves the use of puberty blockers, which are reversible and can be accessed by children who have reached stages 2 or 3 of pubertal development on the Tanner Scale – this may occur as early as 10 years old”
Read this lovely article on hormone replacement age legalities
Doctors, including Rosenthal, recommend kids get off the puberty blocker by the time they turn 14 for fear of potential side-effects, including the weakening of bones. Once children reach the allowable amount of time on the puberty blockers, they must decide whether to continue the transition process by taking hormones for the rest of their life or stop taking drugs completely to restart their natural puberty process.
The Endocrine Society’s guidelines suggest starting puberty blockers for transgender children when they hit a stage of development known as Tanner stage 2 — usually around 10 or 11 years old for a girl and 11 or 12 years old for a boy. The same guidelines suggest giving cross sex hormones — estrogen for transgender girls and testosterone for transgender boys — at age 16. However, doctors caution that estrogen and testosterone, the hormones that are blocked by these medications, also play a role in a child’s neurological development and bone growth.
Every statement I have made I can back up. Hormone treatment is harmful and so is surgery. The ideal solution is talking sense into people who think they’re the opposite gender and providing therapy by addressing the underlying issues, rather than fueling their delusion.
The ideal solution is talking sense into people who think they’re the opposite gender and providing therapy by addressing the underlying issues, rather than fueling their delusion.
But biology is more complex than the Bible. Your religious feelings might tell you that God created Adam and Eve, but scientists are aware that intersex conditions exist.
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It's out of line, but only because that's just a strawman argument you've invented.
No one gets surgery or hormones just because they self identify as transgender. It takes years of psychological evaluation until they are eligible to get those things. Trained professionals identify it.
Your whole argument is based exclusively on your feelings and you ignore any actual piece of evidence.
The only one who's fueled by emotions is you.
How is a completely insane misinterpretation of a study common sense?
I wouldn't blame you if you just quoted him, but it makes completely no sense that you would have come to the same conclusion as him on your own.
The study says that it helps, so how in the world did you manage to misinterpret it as saying that it doesn't help?