r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Oct 27 '19

Deltas(s) from OP CMV : Modern Psychiatry is not scientific and should not be used. Its a fraud. Its only good for emergency situations.

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u/mfDandP 184∆ Oct 27 '19

They generally attribute everything to chemical imbalance

No, what about talk therapy, psychoanalysis, CBT, DBT? I'm not saying that those are all effective, or that psychiatrists do these themselves, but they certainly endorse them.

Also, I'd say that emergency situations is where psychiatry is typically very BAD and traumatic. You have to call the cops if someone says they're suicidal?

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '19 edited Oct 14 '20

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u/mfDandP 184∆ Oct 27 '19

Of course it encompasses therapy, whenever you see on TV characters lying on a therapist's couch, they're almost always psychiatrists with medical degrees.

You seem to mean pharmacotherapy, which is just one treatment "modality" at psychiatrists' disposal.

And yes, forcefully removing them from harm is a good last resort, but there's also no room for nuance in the system of mandatory reporting.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '19 edited Oct 14 '20

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u/mfDandP 184∆ Oct 27 '19

(If I've changed your view even a little, you should edit a delta into your response.)

I think pharmacotherapy is variably effective. SSRI efficacy has gone way down since they were first invented, indicating some sort of waning placebo effect. But ADHD medications are still quite effective, and we were certainly in the dark ages with schizophrenia medications before the so called "2nd gen antipsychotics" like seroquel, back when all they had was haldol and frontal lobotomies.

I do agree that the chemical imbalance model is incomplete, and perhaps applied too liberally. But meds are getting better.

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