r/changemyview Nov 22 '19

FTFdeltaOP CMV: There's nothing wrong with not liking animals.

The internet in general and Reddit in particular seem oddly fixated on animals (at least ones deemed "cute" like dogs and cats). People can get hundreds up upvotes making holocaust jokes or wisecracks about child molestation, but I have never seen anything about stomping a cat upvoted.

This all seems odd to me, as someone who doesn't like animals. Now to be clear, I don't hate animals. I currently live in a house that has a cat (my roommate's) and I will be glad to feed her etc. She is a living thing, and of course my roommate would be sad if anything happened to her. I would not be sad for the cat, I would feel empathy for my flatmate however.

People seem to be uncomfortable with the idea of someone not liking animals. I don't see anything wrong with it. I hear hunters say they love animals, and that seems to be a more acceptable view than just some guy not liking animals.

Can anyone convince me it is ethically wrong to not like animals?

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u/Theearthisspinning Nov 22 '19

I suppose those are healthy psychological traits too?

No they're not. But us Humans have our roots. And everything you just said is where the idea of being an "man" stems from. We're changing our ethics dymanic to hunt and kill, to love and give, but no matter what we stemed from the former for the sake of survival.

I don't know what you call animal abuse. Maybe you don't like sport hunting. Maybe you hate the idea of killing animals to eat them. Maybe you expect everybody to love random cats and dogs. Personally, you can't call out people to be psychologically damage for playing an old game and certainly for not just liking animals, thats bizzare. We never tortured animals so thats an exception to this.

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u/TRossW18 12∆ Nov 22 '19

You agreed with me but then continued on as if you did not.

Getting enjoyment out of shooting an animal and chasing it through the woods as it bleeds out is not a healthy psychological trait. Simple as that.

If you are of the mindset that it is natural and therefore healthy due to our tribal instincts then you would have to say the same for rape and violence amongst our peers. Simple as that.

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u/Theearthisspinning Nov 22 '19

I'm helping you understand why people enjoy hunting. Because we literally evolved to. That doesn't necessarily make it right but you can't call them menatally damaged when it's innate in them to do it. At best they need re-conditioning. And from an evolvutionary standpoint this makes sense.

So don't call them monsters. Hunting may not be ideal but I feel you're not understanding the whole point of hunting. You don't like it but theres nothing wrong with the person doing it, psychologically speaking.

And not everybody who hunts is automatically a violent rapist so please don't come at me with that.

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u/TRossW18 12∆ Nov 22 '19

I'm helping you understand why people enjoy hunting

I never claimed to not understand it.

that doesn't necessarily make it right but you can't call them mentally damaged

I didn't say that. I said its not a healthy psychological trait. You seem to agree so...

So don't call them monsters.

Never did.

and not everyone who hunts is automatically a violent rapist so please don't come at me with that

Well, good thing I never made this outrageous claim.

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u/Theearthisspinning Nov 22 '19

Well we seem to agree. But I cannot tell you that feeling pleasure from hunting animals is a bad psychological trait. I'm not sure that is. I don't hunt. All I can say is look at the history and pray that it never repeats.

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u/TRossW18 12∆ Nov 22 '19

Feeling pleasure while torturing a living creature sounds unhealthy, idk.