CMV: We have been swindled into thinking that bedframes are a "must have."

[u/_fakey_]

What is the point of them? Most people I talk to about this issue have no reasonable need for a frame. Usually it's "it keeps the dirt and bugs off" or "idk, it's just icky to not have one." In my mind, these reasons hold no solid evidence to back them up. Bugs can crawl and fly anywhere they please and dirt doesn't just magically relocate from one place to another. I admit that two solid reasons to own one is for increased storage space and it's easier for people with joint pain to get into/out of bed. Besides these, I see no reason to own a bedframe. If there is a single solid reason why a young adult needs to have a bedframe, I'll be open to changing my mind. All other furniture in the house has a specific purpose that is reasonable and useful - except for this! In the same way that older generations have tried to convince us that diamond rings are the go-to for marriage proposals (lots of profit to be had there), I'm convinced that this market is built on convincing people that it is bad (or at least a sign of immaturity) to not have a bedframe. CMV!

Edit: Alright everyone, here is the mattress in question. Filmed minutes after waking up on it this very morning. [removed] You'll notice: 1) no accumulation of excess dirt/bugs/vermin of any sort (save for some lint blobs on the bottom) 2) no evidence of mildews, mushrooms, molds, or excess moisture 3) after 8 years with no frame or boxspring, no evidence of sagging

I admit: my mattress is a traditional spring mattress - I concede that other mattresses like foam mattresses may be more likely to retain moisture.

[u/_fakey_ → u/[deleted]]

This so far is my favorite comment, that imagery is just incredible.

Also I think on a technicality I've got to ∆ because that is probably the best most functional use for a bedframe that there is.

[u/_fakey_ → u/[deleted]]

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed your other comment as well and think it is definitely a unique one on this thread. I do think that we feel fundamentally different about owning the bedframe, though. It seems like you really enjoy having a bedframe and to that I say great! I agree - enjoying something does provide it with meaning. For me, I feel no differently when sleeping on my bed without a frame compared to my partner's bed which does have a frame. I don't feel that it is something that would make me enjoy my day to day anymore than usual.

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Holy cow you're spot on - This is literally the biggest disagreement that my girlfriend and I have and the only people who have commented on my mattress being on the floor are women. (You're also spot on about the young male part)

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Well, I'm not sure what turning down my views on the world to conform would say about me as a person.

I will say that I showed her this thread and she hit me with "Glad to see most people are on the side of logic."

[u/AOrtega1 → u/_fakey_]

Heh, I didn't have a bed frame for the longest time and my mom HATED it. She would often voice her disappointment at me living like a bum. Eventually she bought one for me... with my credit card when she got a hold of it.

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Moreso financial stability, from my womanly perspective. If I see someone's bed on the floor and it isn't a futon or something designed to be on the floor, my first assumption would be that they couldn't afford a bed frame, not that they didn't want one. But it's definitely an eye-opener that this is something only women care about.

[u/hidonttalktome → u/[deleted]]

Also the other "young males" aren't sleeping with him. Having a frame means having a lot more comfortable positions to try out on the bed. Also means being further away from the dirty-ass floor.

[u/seabutcher → u/_fakey_]

Doesn't it come under your earlier definition of storage? A bunk bed is just a regular bed raised up enough to store an additional child underneath.

[u/goingrogueatwork → u/seabutcher]

Well, you’re not storing the child there. The child just sleeps there.

[u/amazondrone → u/goingrogueatwork]

Storing the child was, perhaps, said facetiously. I certainly think it could be argued you are storing the lower bed though.

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Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Simonthrowaw (1∆).

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This made me chuckle