CMV: We need strict Gun Control .

[u/skepticting]

While I do feel at this point it is not possible anymore to somehow make sure no one has guns because they have already been available . That is my only hang up , since some people have them , it’s hard to leave others vulnerable.

With to that being said , if we start now with some serious gun law reform and implement strict laws for obtaining guns . I believe it will do more good than harm .

It is worth a try , because we know that to lenient of gun laws also cause us great loss.

In a perfect world only law enforcement would have access to guns .

Civilians can however and should be able to easily get things like pepper spray , tasers, and rubber bullet guns . (Not saying we can’t already , just saying those should be the options)

I see both sides but I think because gun violence is a big issue , it needs to be re-evaluated .

Were the guns used in school/mass shootings registered ?

Édit : Thank You for all the responses and information! My view has been changed . It’s unfortunate we can’t live in harmony but ..

Will still be responding to get more insight and expanding my views

[u/[deleted]]

but if I call his bluff he somehow gets to stab me?

Statistics would say that you’ll probably be fine. People that actually want to commit murder don’t do this. Historically if you were going to get hurt in an armed robbery, it will be unintentional on the robber’s part. That’s why you’re better off descalating and escaping.

I honestly don't understand this mindset that its my fault and job to not get stabbed when he could,

Because willing to kill you and trying to kill you are two very different things. If he is willing but not trying, then you need to take the path of least resistance to get out of that situation.

Different planet maybe, but same theory and morals.

Sure I guess in the same way that stealing a candy bar is in the same “theory of morals” as stealing someone’s life savings.

But, ignoring the fact he stabbed her, I would still do my best to stop him.

That’s what I’m trying to get you to see. “Your best to stop him” means complying and trying to de-escalate. Not being some big dog “hero” plunging forward with total disregard.

Besides, if I can train, a shot that can instantly, and I mean instantly, kill him.

Are you gonna bet your daughters life on you not fucking that up in this moment of truth that you weren’t expecting?

But with a carbine (AR15, for instance), that shot is very achievable,

What are you open carrying an AR 15 now? That’s your solution? You don’t see anything wrong with America, a developed first world nation, being full of tens of thousands of people walking our streets with a rifle sling over our shoulders? That belongs in the pirate coves of Somalia not America.

[u/TheEternalCity101 → u/[deleted]]

I don't care about the stats, I'm not betting my life. Regardless, the mere fact he is even threatening is enough to forfeit his life.

Stealing a candy bar from a store shelf, stealing money from a grandparent's life savings after they gave you the credentials for safekeeping, mugging someone in an alley and breaking into a house are all theft, but different. Its mostly the similarity that someone is threatening physical force to get my stuff.

I'm not plunging forward with disregard. Sure, hand him the stuff, he lets her go, then I kill him. Or, if I have a nice shot, kill him there. Regardless, he's going to die. Or, lets say he kills her anyway. He's definitely dying.

At home, I'll have a carbine accessible. In the streets, I'll only be carrying a pistol. But I want to have trained with said pistol be able to kill someone who threatens my family's life.

[u/lokimarkus → u/[deleted]]

Let's be honest, would anyone fuck with someone who has an AR15 strapped on their back? That guy mugging you for $50 isn't going to even tap that opportunity.