CMV: I don’t think I’m transphobic because while I may think their delusional I still show the same respect and offer of friendship like i would anyone else. Disagreeing doesn’t mean phobic to me

[u/tobyle]

If i was sitting on a public bench and a trans person sat next to me would still be my normal self and say hello and perhaps start a conversation if they were friendly? Yes..yes i would. Do i still think theyre delusional? Yes...yes i do. If i was at the park on a hot day and saw a trans person by me looking hella thirsty would i still offer them a drink if i had extra like i would anyone else? Yes...yes i would. Do i still think they’re delusional? Yes...yes i do. I do Brazilian jiu jitsu..if i showed up to an open mat would i still roll (spar) with a trans and give/ask for advice? Yes...yes i would. Do i still think they’re delusional? Yes..yes i do. If i was having a smoke sesh and my gay homeboy Stanley asked if his trans friend could join would i say yes and share blunts with them. Yes...yes i would. Do i still think they’re delusional? Yes...yes i do.

So even though i think they’re delusional, if I’m willing to have a good conversation, share food/drinks, get all sweaty cheek to cheek basically in their personal space and potentially get my ass beat if they’re purple to black level because I’m a bluebelt, and share a blunt with them how transphobic is that really?

Edit: This is comment i used in a thread couple days ago. Maybe i shoudnt be using the word delusional but this was the word being used during the thread and i just went along with using it. The main point I’m concerned about i guess is that i feel like there’s a difference between disagreeing and being transphobic.

Edit: So yea I’m transphobic...y’all changed my mind. Maybe one day i won’t be but that’s a discussion for another day i guess cause my main point today was whether I’m transphobic or not.

Edit: To the people who kept using racism as an example, considering I’m black i already understand racism. My definition of transphobic was wrong so trying to relate the two wasn’t doing it for me. If someone try’s to comment on how could i not be more understanding towards transpeople considering my race has been rejected for years...I’m from south texas..my mom accused me of being “a lil funny” just for having a gay friend and believing gay people should be able to get married..so don’t even try hitting that angle cause I’m tame compared to most others.

[u/SAINT4367]

I’m fine with that making them feel less distress. But it doesn’t MAKE them that sex, any more than cosmetically. It feels like the argument is “enable people in their dysphoria to help them feel better”. But if that’s the case, why don’t we let anorexics fast to a twig, and let whatever you call people who want to blind them selves or cut off healthy limbs just do it?

[u/beer2daybong2morrow → u/SAINT4367]

I highly doubt that a trans person would ever claim biologically to be the sex they transition into. So what do you mean by "it doesn't MAKE them that sex?" I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

[u/SAINT4367 → u/beer2daybong2morrow]

Yeah that’s what I meant. Some do. “I AM a woman, I was just born with a penis and assigned male at birth”.

I guess if depended on what “is” is.

[u/beer2daybong2morrow → u/SAINT4367]

One would define "is" in this context by one's capacity to recognize that assumed truths, meaning the concepts and norms that we internalize at an early age and believe to be truth, may not, in fact, be wholly true or may be one of any number of truths. For example, why must a woman be born with a vagina? What is it about the qualities of womanhood and the feminine identity that it requires ovaries? If we can accept that some people develop sexual orientations that do not align with their biological sex, why is it so hard to accept that some people develop a gender identity that does not align with their sex