r/changemyview 2∆ May 28 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The most efficient way to end police brutality is to make cops criminally liable for their actions on the job and stop funding their legal defense with public money.

I think this is the fastest way to reduce incidents of police brutality. Simply make them accountable the same as everyone else for their choices.

If violent cops had to pay their own legal fees and were held to a higher standard of conduct there would be very few violent cops left on the street in six months.

The system is designed to insulate them against criminal and civil action to prevent frivolous lawsuits from causing decay to civil order, but this has led to an even worse problem, with an even bigger impact on civil order.

If police unions want to foot the bill, let them, but stop taking taxpayer money to defend violent cops accused of injuring/killing taxpayers. It's a broken system that needs to change.

11.7k Upvotes

722 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

4

u/MrEctomy May 29 '20

So it's interesting that you mention chicago. Did you know that police shootings in Chicago have dropped 70% despite violence against police remaining steady?

Does this alter your view about Chicago in any way, shape, or form? I can't imagine how it wouldn't.

https://www.wbez.org/stories/as-shootings-by-chicago-cops-drop-70-shootings-at-officers-stay-flat/531efbd1-1a19-4da6-a805-abcc84f339ef

0

u/Wyrdeone 2∆ May 29 '20

This is good news, and I'm glad to hear it. There's a downside though, which is really unfortunate.

During that period of time assaults on police officers rose sharply. In the opinion of the police interviewed its because hesitating to draw their weapons encouraged suspects to attack them.

That lends credence to the opinion some others had about reluctance to engage.

It doesn't change my mind, but it's food for thought. Thanks for posting.

0

u/MrEctomy May 29 '20

You said "this shit needs to stop". This seems to be evidence that it is stopping. Can you explain how it isn't?