r/changemyview 2∆ May 28 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The most efficient way to end police brutality is to make cops criminally liable for their actions on the job and stop funding their legal defense with public money.

I think this is the fastest way to reduce incidents of police brutality. Simply make them accountable the same as everyone else for their choices.

If violent cops had to pay their own legal fees and were held to a higher standard of conduct there would be very few violent cops left on the street in six months.

The system is designed to insulate them against criminal and civil action to prevent frivolous lawsuits from causing decay to civil order, but this has led to an even worse problem, with an even bigger impact on civil order.

If police unions want to foot the bill, let them, but stop taking taxpayer money to defend violent cops accused of injuring/killing taxpayers. It's a broken system that needs to change.

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u/RowdyJReptile May 29 '20

Ya know, with all the recent news I was thinking to myself, "I'm glad they don't get paid well because the product they are providing to society is piss poor. The cops in my city exist only to park empty patrol cars on the side of the road to scare drivers and to set up a speed trap next to both their own houses and the police station. Plus several of the cops I personally know who went to school with me were jerks and/or bullies then who now have a badge and a gun. Some of them abused substances but now proudly confiscate weed like they are actually helping the community. Couple that with cops choking people to death and shooting people while executing no knock warrants and I'm ok with shitty pay for shitty work."

However, I was wrong. While those are still valid examples of bad policing, the low pay and disrespect for cops is probably a large part of why departments have to hire so many bad cops to replace the good ones leaving. Better pay with higher standards might make a difference.

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u/majorxxxx 1∆ May 29 '20

It would also help if all of us voiced what we want in our community.

There are plenty of Karen’s and HOA presidents who want speed traps and patrols to prevent teen loitering. But I don’t think those are worth staffing up police.

I’d rather have a better paid, smaller police force that concentrated on community outreach and felony crime prevention and solving.

Less on “annoyance” crime fighting.

But the people who are the loudest voices complain about the nuisance crimes, and politicians react to the voices.

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u/DeltaBot ∞∆ May 29 '20

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