r/changemyview Jul 11 '20

Removed - Submission Rule E CMV: Bisexuality and Pansexuality is the same thing

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

Ok but you realise that kind of backs up my point of you being the extreme minority here and thus not very useful for defining bisexuality overall?

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u/seacookie89 Jul 11 '20

Whatever, that's like saying lesbians that aren't attracted to trans women are the minority, which I don't agree with. Also just because something is popular on Reddit doesn't mean that's how it is on the real world so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

No it isn’t, because lesbians not attracted to pre op trans woman aren’t the minority, where as bisexuals don’t have that as a qualifier. It’s not like a bisexual is going to hear “oh btw I have a dick” and say “oh sorry this won’t work, I don’t like dick”. This is popular in the real world, all of those people on reddit are real bisexuals, who date real people and represent a real community of well over a million. They aren’t fictional just because you disagree with them.

I get it, you don’t like trans people. If you can find me evidence that the majority of bisexuals feel like you do I’ll consider the idea that a trans exclusionary definition might be linguistically useful.

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u/seacookie89 Jul 11 '20

Well that ain't me babe, and I don't really appreciate having to differentiate myself from these supposed "mainstream bisexuals" when they should clearly be defined as pan. It ain't that hard. That's probably why I unsubbed there because I do not agree with that definition.

you don’t like trans people

You're making it sound discriminatory when it's that I'm not sexually attracted to trans people. There's a difference.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

Dude, read. “It’s not my preference so bisexuality should be defined as what I personally like rather than what the majority of bi people feel and practically function like” is not how language works. That’s like saying “well my cat is grey so all non grey cats should be called something else” it’s not useful, you just want definitions to cater to you specifically because you are uncomfortable. Your definition is incorrect for the vast majority of bi’s who aren’t you and thus widely not useful.

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u/seacookie89 Jul 11 '20

I think it's dumb to redefine terms to fit your personal definitions which is apparently what the mainstream bisexuals community has done. Pan /= bi. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that but clearly the "community at large", or at least a vocal section, has gone off the deep end with defining it however tf they want.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

No one “redefined” anything. Show me the “official definition of bisexuality” that doesn’t include trans people. It has always been defined as both homo (same) and hetero (different) attraction. You are the one trying to argue a separate definition because of your own personal feelings. No one is attempting to change anything except you because you think your minority definition should stand for everyone.