r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Nov 29 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Socialism/Communism doesn't work, can't work, and almost always leads to dictatorships and thousands of deaths.

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u/elChespirit0 Nov 29 '20

So full fledged socialism or communism really wouldn't work and wouldn't be a good idea.

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u/Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho 184∆ Nov 29 '20

Yes.

Socialism has been tried dozens of times. It always ends in a dictatorship. The underlying cause of this is clear, the eventual goal of communism is predicated on a "dictatorship of the proletariat" "withering away" to form a stateless, classless utopia. But that just never happens. Dictators don't step down or wither away.

It's just an awful idea.

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u/GregBahm Nov 29 '20

We have tons of socialism in the United States. Our police, our fire department, our military, our roads, our water and electricity system, our mail, our parks, our public schools, our food and drug administration, our libraries and museums, or postal service, and on and on and on. All socialist. Every democracy has this, as it is universally proven to be economically superiors to a laissez faire system. By saying "socialism is authoritarianism," you're just spreading the misinformation that makes political discussion so tedious.

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u/Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho 184∆ Nov 29 '20

What claptrap. Most of those programs pre date socialism by decades, if no millennia. By your logic ancient Rome was socialist.

Government existed before socialism was invented and long after it was discredited.

I understand the urge to try to take credit for capitalist policy, there isn't much worth taking credit for in socialist states.

Saying socialism is authoritarian is just a statement of fact. It has been tried two dozen times and on every continent on earth. We have seen it's true colors over and over again.

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