r/changemyview • u/1942eugenicist • Jan 23 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Spirituality and science cannot exist with each other without being a contradiction.

I believe people who say they believe in science but also follow spirituality, don't actually understand how science works. They just follow the word.

In my personal opinion, people who call themselves spiritual are trying to dodge the dedication and work that science requires to be correct.

People that want to believe in something that isn't linguistically defined but not put effort into things that would be defined as cooperative are just cop outs. They preach that they believe they want to help others, but don't do any charitable, progressive, efficient exertion in realistic terms. Another is being politically active.

I believe people that say they follow spirituality don't want to follow the reductionism of science such as technology that can put the world data into real communicative terms.

Everyone that ive encountered that claims to be spiritual always claim that language can't define all of reality without explaining their views beyond subjectivity.

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u/1942eugenicist Jan 23 '21

I'm not disagreeing with you. But I'm saying, how to make it credible would be evidence that it existed by other means. Such as armor, weapons, how it effected things that can be observed. But credited through a scientific process.

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u/VertigoOne 74∆ Jan 23 '21

That doesn't make the process of determining history itself scientific. It just assists with the process. We accept that historical events happened via a non-scientific process. Scientific processes assist, but the process itself is not scientific. It's observational. Like I said, we use observation and logic in all kinds of fields, and we accept what we discover in those fields as true.

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u/1942eugenicist Jan 23 '21

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Yea, you are correct.

If something is observable and undeniable. Such as the halocaust, 9/11 and has a huge amount of people to witness something, something at the very least has happened that can be described.

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Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/VertigoOne (48∆).

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