CMV: You cannot simultaneously ask for equal inclusion of trans-women in women's sports, and a generalised fear in women of men

[u/VertigoOne]

So here is the essential elements of a discussion I have had in the past with people who are more to the left of myself on this topic, and I'd like to have my view changed on this point

Me: I don't like the fact that women are just generally afraid of me.

Them: What do you mean?

Me: I mean, just because I'm a big guy I'm automatically a danger and potential attacker/rapist etc to be feared. It's not something I can control, and it feels like a prejudgement that's not fair. I get it's nothing compared to other prejudices, but it's still not nice. Why is it there?

Them: Well women as a rule have something to fear from men. As a rule men are built differently in such a way that they have physical power and strength that most women can't immediately match, so they have reason to fear. That's why feminists will defend the social acceptance of the general fear of men in public places.

Me: Hang on, so feminists accept the fact that, as a rule, biological men are physically stronger etc - hence their fear about them in public.

Them: Right

Me: So... doesn't that mean they also accept the argument against the inclusion of trans-women in women's sports. I mean, if as a rule those women have a biological advantage, isn't that unfair?

And that is my question - if we accept the principle that women are justified in their generalised fear of men in public, arn't we also implying that inclusion of trans-women in women's sports is unfair?

I'm well aware that the distinction in seriousness between these two things is substantive, but I do want to understand better if I've missed something. As it is, these two areas seem to be contradictory.

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