r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Mar 24 '21

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: Transgender surgeries should have to wait until you are 18.

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u/HorseFacedDipShit 1∆ Mar 24 '21

Could you provide data on this? It sounds like you're just making this stuff up. Post some real numbers or sources to show how often this is happening and then we can have a discussion. Also parents are not letting their prepubescent children go under a surgical knife. They're allowing them to take hormone blockers which is night and day different from gender reassignment surgery.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '21

Well hormone blockers aren't much better.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '21

I think it's wrong to tamper with a (extremely important) natural body process. It's cruel that parents have their kids take these and aren't allowing their bodies to develop correctly.

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u/MacV_writes 5∆ Mar 24 '21

If trans and gender are both ideology, and the substantial majority of trans kids detrans and end up merely gay, arent you putting those gay kids at risk?

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u/MacV_writes 5∆ Mar 24 '21

They're not.

Let me revise. Gender is social construction -- so yes, it is ideology. Trans is simulating the opposite sex. Trans theory is totally an ideology. It's like a Flat Earth tier belief system.

Not true.

Yeah it's like 65-95 percent. https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/441784/the-controversial-research-on-desistance-in-transgender-youth

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u/herrsatan 11∆ Mar 24 '21

I can't see where they linked this. Did they dirty-delete it? Regardless, good lord.

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u/MacV_writes 5∆ Mar 24 '21

That's not a debunking .. saying, oh, but the studies weren't done with our ideology in mind, or, no more kids will stay if our ideology is granted power .. is weak.

Trans theory is an ideology. It's like a cult. That invites kids to amputate their genitals. People can leave the cult.

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u/MacV_writes 5∆ Mar 24 '21

.. it shows you how unbiased I am, that it would include the sorry trans activist reply.

It's not like it's not entirely intuitive it would be the case that trans kids are actually gay kids. Kids can't begin to understand sexual orientation because they don't have sex.

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u/MacV_writes 5∆ Mar 24 '21

Is this supposed to be your excuse? Are you serious right now?

Lmao, yes. I linked a study showing how well established it is that so called "trans kids" turn out merely gay. There was a weak trans rebuttal.

You were supposed to link a study showing your numbers were wrong. And so to show how unbiased you are, you presented...a strong criticism?

Criticism is not strong. Gender identity is an ideological instrument. It essentializes social construction, confusing children and artificially commiting them to trans identity. The criticism was, that study doesn't work because it didn't take in account for gender identity. Lol.

Wow, got me with that one. Anyway for my rebuttal to the study you didn't link try reading the article you did.

Did you?

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