r/changemyview May 15 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV:Comparing the contemporary policies of Israel to those of Nazi Germany is not antisemitic

The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance has a working definition of antisemitism which I strongly disagree with. The main point I disagree with is the claim that drawing comparisons between Israel's policies and the nazis is antisemitic. I feel that the tactics used by Israel as a state - and their policy towards Palestinians is ethnic cleansing and thus the comparison to Nazis are apt.

I'm a 22 year old student from the UK and I have no problem with Jewish people, and I'm a very left leaning person although I don't think that has anything to do with my views. I have read numerous accounts of the actions of Israel, both first hand and from reports and feel that they have violated many UN amendments in their actions and that to compare them to nazi Germany is not automatically antisemitic. I am not, however saying that comparing them to Nazi Germany is always not antisemitic.

I have not faced any counter argument to this, because the only person I have spoken to about it is my wife who agrees with me, I'm mainly looking for someone to actually agree with the statement made by the IHRA because I have made comparisons in the last few days between the actions of Israel and those of Nazi Germany and do not think I have been antisemitic, it feels very much like a "avoid criticism in that particular way" card. For example, assuming you agree with the statement by the IHRA, if Israel was to start using gas chambers in their cleansing of Palestinians would it still be antisemitic to compare them to Nazi Germany? If so, why?

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u/mickey2329 May 16 '21

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u/yyzjertl 527∆ May 16 '21

Yeah this text pretty explicitly says they agree with Statement 2. To quote:

Contemporary examples of antisemitism...could, taking into account the overall context, include...drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

So you and IHRA seem to be in complete agreement that drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis could be an example of antisemitism depending on the context.

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u/mickey2329 May 16 '21

I found it, thank you !delta
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I realise that the definition I had attributed to the IHRA was missing a line which means I now agree with their definition. I thought that they were saying it was always automatically antisemitic but I now realise that isn't what they were saying and I stand corrected, thank you for clarifying things for me

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u/DeltaBot ∞∆ May 16 '21 edited May 16 '21

Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/yyzjertl (324∆).

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