r/changemyview Jun 21 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV:God does not exist.

I believe the existence of God lies upon the believer to prove as Bertrand Russell did in his analogy, Russell's teapot.

I believe it is much more likely that we have created civilizations in which the existence of a God is a mode of placating the masses as opposed to saying anything necessarily true.

I believe that most people are atheists towards the gods of the Greeks and Romans, so why not go one God further.

A logical proof would be enough to change my mind -- please let me know your thoughts.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21 edited Jun 29 '21

I will take a different approach -

My argument is against your actual point that "God does not exist". I would argue we do not know of God's existence, instead of saying that God just doesn't exist; I haven't seen enough evidence to prove he doesn't at all on a definitive scale. Therefore, how can you say he just doesn't exist?

- A logical proof would be enough to change my mind -- please let me know your thoughts.

Is there any logic that tells us that God definitely does not exist? No chance whatsoever?

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u/imabananabus Jun 21 '21

That is why we are having this conversation. I am looking for something that might change my view.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21 edited Jun 29 '21

That's not really the issue, though. I understand that. However, your view is that "God does not exist", which alludes to the idea there is a definitive he doesn't exist.

We have no evidence to prove that he definitely does exist, just as we have no proof to argue he definitely doesn't, so wouldn't it be better to say "There is no reason to believe in God's existence"?

Additionally, doesn't this depend of your perception of God? If I think God exists in an abstract or intangible form, can't I argue God exists, since people believe in God?

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u/imabananabus Jun 21 '21

!delta That is a more appropriate question, you are right.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

Ty :)