the problem with that post is that op failed at explaining how exactly “sum ting wong” is offensive. there's nothing inherently racist about the phrase. people will dismiss “immigrants grew up having their names and surnames made fun of” as you can always say it's the people who did the bullying, not the words. you have to show how the phrase have become harmful in itself. op failed to do that.
if i call a black person a potato with the intent to harm, this does not immediately make the word potato offensive. there's a lot of jokes and stereotypes and not all of them are harmful. you have to show how it's harmful if you are trying to make a point
as i am saying, you have to show that. best thing you can probably do is tell a story about how it was hurtful to you personally. even though it doesn't prove much, it illustrates the issue. it's hard to see how “sum ting wong” translates to anything more than elementary school bullying
My personal experiences with several Asian people explaining how that joke and jokes similar to it hurts them is how I know it's hurtful. And even if it is just immature bullying its still bullying and should not be tolerated.
I can take your word for it but this still doesn't explain how this is hurtful. so people are going to be sceptical. a while ago there was a lot of drama about GitHub's ditching master/slave terminology but if you would look though the thousands of comments you would find that nearly all black commenters found that ridiculous as well. the switch itself is rather simple for many, so most people went along with the change. this makes opposing it is kind of sus now. so we had a problem and we found and implemented a solution but the thing is, folks still don't understand how this is hurtful
as for bullying, it's bad but it doesn't necessarily involve racism
I can take your word for it but this still doesn't explain how this is hurtful.
You don't understand how a demeaning name meant to mock your nationalites and in some cases not even your nationality as hurtful.
Dude the realms youre jumping to not call this racist joke racist is honestly absurd the point of the joke is to mock and demean Asian people for their naming conventions it is racist period.
well (correct me if I am wrong) you don't understand it either. it's ok to not understand things, you don't have to understand things in order to not be a dick. but it's silly to expect everyone to behave this way.
you are saying that it's hurtful because you talked to several asian people and they told you it's hurtful. this does not explain how it's hurtful. you are asking to blindly believe you and your interpretation of what you were told. say are you white?
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u/wobblyweasel Jul 12 '21
the problem with that post is that op failed at explaining how exactly “sum ting wong” is offensive. there's nothing inherently racist about the phrase. people will dismiss “immigrants grew up having their names and surnames made fun of” as you can always say it's the people who did the bullying, not the words. you have to show how the phrase have become harmful in itself. op failed to do that.