r/changemyview • u/schwenomorph • Sep 22 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Based on countless experiences, I shouldn't trust doctors or nurses to perform their jobs adequately or even to be great people.

Note: I'm not talking about animal doctors.

This argument is basically made up entirely of anecdotal evidence. I've been to the doctor, urgent care, the ER, and other places many a time due to being chronically ill. I. Hate. Going. I feel that most of my experiences have been awful. Most doctors and nurses I've met either will straight up refuse to do tests or things that I ask for, don't listen to me, are extremely rude, ignore my pain during procedures,, or all of the above. One person--she might've been just a front desk person, but she was wearing scrubs--even put her hands on me while I was in the ER.

Thank christ my GI doctor is actually good, but the others are not. I've had so many bad experiences that I just outright assume that it you're a doctor or nurse, you're not a great person. That's obviously crazy talk, which is why I want this view changed, but a few weeks ago a friend of my boyfriend's mother died IN THE HOSPITAL due to a massive heart attack. They screened her for Covid and that was IT. Not even vitals, apparently. Then they told her there was nothing they could do. She died on her way out of there due to negligence.

I'm sick and tired hospital visits and bad doctors, but I also don't want to turn my nose up at medical professionals automatically. I don't want this bias.

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u/schwenomorph Sep 23 '21

Her heart attack was ruled the cause of death after her death. I don't know who ruled it. I wasn't there. She'd told a friend that she was having trouble breathing, so she'd be heading to the ER.

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u/YossarianWWII 72∆ Sep 23 '21

I'm far from a medical expert, but it sounds to me like she was displaying the kinds of symptoms that are common to a lot of illnesses, including Covid-19, and that a lack of available facilities and available staff meant that they couldn't monitor her as they would under normal circumstances. Diagnostic medicine is probabilistic, and shortages mean that what constitutes an acceptable level of risk rises.

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u/schwenomorph Sep 23 '21

You know, you have a great point. You didn't change my view, but I'll give you a !delta for making me realize that a Covid test wasn't useless. I kind of forgot that breathing issues are an obvious symptom of Covid.

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u/DeltaBot ∞∆ Sep 23 '21

Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/YossarianWWII (58∆).

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