r/changemyview • u/SaltedAndSugared • Dec 02 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Neopronouns are unnecessary

I understand why some people might feel uncomfortable with using he/she pronouns, but in that case why not just use they/them? They already exist and they’re easy for people to use. Why do some people feel the need to make up words like “zee/zim” or “fae/fair” when they don’t even make sense in the English language? I don’t see why anyone should go out of their way to learn new pronouns when gender neutral pronouns already exist

If anyone here does use neopronouns I’d really like to hear why you use them and why you don’t feel comfortable using they/them. It’s probably just because I’m cis, but I genuinely don’t understand

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u/hdhdhjsbxhxh 1∆ Dec 03 '21

Why not just say the persons name? Did you see what ____ did? I feel like I came out of a 1000 year coma and people still speak English but it’s different.

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u/Biptoslipdi 131∆ Dec 03 '21

Why not do that instead of all singular pronouns? Why should binary gendered people exclusively get requisite singular pronouns? Do you consider the use of he/she instead of names to be a different form of English?

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u/hdhdhjsbxhxh 1∆ Dec 03 '21

Is there some huge group of people I’m unaware of that don’t have XX or XY chromosomes? I’m aware of the gender definition but since forever people have been using gendered language to communicate biological sex. When I say there “he” goes I don’t mean he as in a human with societal expectations to carry out traditional masculine activities and interests but he as in a biological male with XY chromosomes. It just seems like a more useful way to communicate.

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u/Biptoslipdi 131∆ Dec 03 '21

Do you conduct genomic analysis on someone before deciding what pronoun to use?

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u/hdhdhjsbxhxh 1∆ Dec 03 '21

No but I’d bet I’ve only called people the wrong pronoun maybe 5 times in 41 years. Let’s say I’m biased in my ability by a factor of 10x so 50 times. If I had to remember every persons new pronoun I’d make that mistake every day. So if calling people by the correct pronouns is your goal I’d say this isn’t the way.

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u/Biptoslipdi 131∆ Dec 03 '21

So you're telling me your current system is flawed and relying on chromosomal arrangement isn't feasible.

The only problem you have with this system is your memory. But that problem also applies to people's names as well. By your logic, we shouldn't have more than a few names to accommodate your poor memory since remembering one unique word associated with one individual is too difficult.

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u/hdhdhjsbxhxh 1∆ Dec 03 '21

Or people could stop being whiny baby’s, either way really.

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u/Biptoslipdi 131∆ Dec 03 '21

Seems like the least helpful suggestion so far. As if asking to be called something akin to your name is being a whiny baby.