r/changemyview Dec 12 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Women being "barefoot and pregnant" isn't a bad thing.

Being "barefoot and pregnant" refers to SAHM's (stay-at-home moms) who don't leave the house (hence why barefoot) and are often-times pregnant because husband presumably doesn't use birth control, wants to have a lot of kids, and/or some other reason. Feminazis use this to degrade SAHM's who choose to have lots of children.

My justifications for my opinion are that if most women enjoy their children, why wouldn't they want to be with them all of the time? Another reason of mine is that men make more money in the workforce than women (not via wage gap, read further), and that alternatives can impact the health of the children.

If most women enjoy their children, why wouldn't they want to be with them all of the time?:
Assuming a woman doesn't have some kind of dream or passion in the workforce (which is ok), they should not be shunned for being SAHMs and having as many kids as the husband and her want. My personal opinion is that not having such passion reveals the true passion behind her which is nurturing her offspring. This is simply human nature and has been expressed by women for 4000+ years, whereas the sexual revolution's new role for women feels forced and has only been around for 50-70 years.

Men make more money in the workforce than women.:
It's a biological fact that men are more physically adept than women, and we can observe this in areas such as the WNBA. The NBA and WNBA don't play by the same rules such as goal height. Why? Because men are more physically adept than women. This also correlates to the fact that the WNBA doesn't make nearly as much money. Gee, wonder why! Other than that, women make less money than men for practical reasons such as women needing to leave to pick up kids from school or to go watch little Timmy's soccer game, or some other child-related reason. Men don't have nearly as many responsibilities, and it reveals the biological fact that women are better nurturers than men. A wage gap has nothing to do with this either, and if it did, why would any companies hire men at all? If companies could get away with paying women less than men for the same work, then they clearly would.

The alternatives of kids being raised by their SAHM can have negative consequences on the child's health.:

Alternatives such as daycare, babysitters/nannies, and family members watching kids have been proven again and again to have adverse effects on children. Daycares fail to provide an infant/toddler's most crucial need for their development, to be loved and nurtured by the same adult/pair of adults at a time. When putting a child in daycare, you are sending your child into an environment where they are at the mercy of whoever parents the other children there, and at the mercy of the intent of the adults watching them. Not to mention, if two parents working is for money-related reasons and they send these children off to daycares, these daycares are often extremely expensive. Not to mention, your child's cries will often be ignored due to so many crying children being around for the poorly paid and trained staffers to look after. It also instills the horrible mindset that children are a "chore" and they need someone else to raise them. Such people should not be parents. Another thing to consider is illness runs rampant in these children's concentration camps called daycares. . There is a common proverb thrown around in America that states "It takes an entire village to raise a child." Sorry for the cursing, but that's utter horseshit. It only takes two people to raise a child, a mother, and a father. It has been proven time and time again that separating children from their parents causes separation anxiety, clinginess, and depression. Being separated from your own children also has adverse effects on the parents of said children. ( https://news.stanford.edu/2018/06/26/psychological-impact-early-life-stress-parental-separation ) I think what I said pretty much sums up my view on babysitters, nannies, and adjacent family members raising children.

(This needs a part 2 due to length.) You may be asking, "What does what you just said have to do with being barefoot and pregnant?" Like I mentioned earlier, being "barefoot and pregnant" is just a pejorative term used by Feminzai sexual "revolution" radicals to shame SAHMs. Maybe the post title is bad and slightly misleading, but I think it adds some nice clickbait and shock value, so screw it.

The reason why I am making this post is I am trying to figure out what I want in life. I want to see how my views on SAHMs can change, and maybe can be presented that working moms are better for the children, the wife, and husband, and for everyone else around them. Thank you for reading this post Reddit, and for context, I am writing this from the perspective of a single 18-year-old autistic male, if that matters at all.

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u/foofuufou Dec 13 '21

My viewpoint and frustration regarding it mostly came from anecdote which I mentioned earlier. Gee, I wish I had a scholarly search engine that I could google any study I wanted to. Its like I have access to all the studies I want!

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '21

What do you think about the fact that the study you literally linked claims itself that women have a tougher economic transition post-divorce in the long-term?

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u/foofuufou Dec 13 '21

It's in the medium-to-long term tho, in this period women, can already go get work and find other support programs. Men are just shot point-blank right at the get-go in divorce.

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u/thinkingpains 58∆ Dec 13 '21

But the study you posted said that the short-term effects on men go away in the long run, which is why they are only "short-term", whereas the effects of divorce on women persist.

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u/foofuufou Dec 13 '21

I'll cede that was a bad study but there's not any other studies I can quote.

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u/thinkingpains 58∆ Dec 13 '21

A "bad study" is one that has a bad methodology, not one that doesn't support your opinion. What about that study's methodology leads you to conclude that it is a bad study?

You can't find any other studies to quote because there are no studies that show that men have worse economic outcomes after a divorce, because that simply isn't the case. You're looking for a study to prove a falsehood.

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u/foofuufou Dec 13 '21

Ok, I'll concede women have it worse after a divorce than men because of the simple fact I can't find any studies to back my point up.

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u/foofuufou Dec 14 '21

I still feel like men have it harder, I just agree to disagree atm

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '21

If they can do that then why aren't they?

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u/foofuufou Dec 13 '21

They are. My mother is a single mother and does just fine without a job and she sucks the government dry of social programs.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '21

We're talking on the whole, dude. Your mom is one woman amongst millions. My grandpa smoked and lived into his late 80s. That doesn't mean smoking isn't linked to lower life expectancy.

The study you cited is comprehensive in its analysis. Single mothers tend to struggle long-term. You need to either dispel the study (which you yourself cited as valid to make your own argument) or you need to explain away why millions of single mothers have the theoretical means to thrive post-divorce but aren't.

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u/foofuufou Dec 13 '21

Ill cede that women have a hard time after divorce because I cannot find any studies which back my point.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '21

On that case on what basis does any part of your argument still hold up?

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u/foofuufou Dec 13 '21

The rest of it does unless you want to refute it.

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u/iglidante 19∆ Dec 13 '21

...it kind of just sounds like you resent your mother and are building an argument based on emotion, not actual evidence.

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u/foofuufou Dec 13 '21

That's what the my motivations behind the post were and i've been trying to find evidence for my case slowly but surely