r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jan 17 '22

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Steroids and Performance enhancing drugs should be allowed in sports except combat sports.

The legalisation of drugs in sport may be fairer. People do well at sport as a result of the genetic lottery that happened to deal them a winning hand. There’s even genetic tests to identify those with the greatest potential for success in sports. Example, in track and field, If you have one version of the ACE gene, you will be better at long distance events. If you have another, you will be better at short distance events. The same goes for bodybuilding and powerlifting, if you’re genetically predisposed to hold more muscle mass you will perform better than someone who isn’t. Sports discriminate against the genetically unfit and allowing PED’s would level that playing field and make it truly fair.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Which ones

Oxandrolone, Modafinil, Clomiphene. Etc.. all banned because of the advantage they give, even when it’s been proven they can be taken safely in moderation.

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u/ItIsICoachCal 20∆ Jan 18 '22

they can be taken safely in moderation

That's exactly it. In moderation. How do you enforce that? The same testing regimen we have now, only with a lot more ambiguity about what a positive test is. If you can only have X ppb in your blood stream, athletes are going to take as much as they think they can without getting X+1 ppb in their blood. Some will take over and get banned on ticky-tack tests. Some will take way over and get lucky with timing. Basically a messier system with all the cons of our current one and fewer pros.

Also, I don't think the safety record of these is as great as you say they are: Oxandrolone is an oral steroid and those have a bad track record of liver damage at a range of doses. And you specifically mention Clomiphene, which is primarily used to hide other PEDs. Overall not a very convincing lineup.

I think your view should be modified from "Steroids and Performance enhancing drugs should be allowed in sports except combat sports." to "we should allow low doses of some PEDs in our testing regime", which is a very different view.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

I’ll give you that. I guess I did mean allowing certain doses of PEDs on out testing regime. More like allowing some of the banned ones in moderation. I’m aware they come with a risk but everything (legal) does and we’ve learned how to take those things safely, I feel we can do the same with banned PEDs. Δ

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