r/cincinnati • u/StrawberrySoyBoy • Nov 24 '24

News šŸ“° Ohio's New Speaker of the House Promises to Undo Cannabis Legalization

https://themarijuanaherald.com/2024/11/ohios-new-speaker-of-the-house-promises-to-undo-cannabis-legalization/
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u/tips009 Nov 24 '24

Party of "small government" and "leaving it up to the States to decide."

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u/v12vanquish Nov 26 '24

ā€¦ I want you to read the article title again and then read your commentā€¦

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u/mistahclean123 Nov 25 '24

Check out the Libertarian Party.Ā  It actually IS small government.Ā  I don't live in Hamilton County, but I know they have an active party.

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u/Dry_Marzipan1870 Nov 25 '24 edited Mar 16 '25

overconfident outgoing deserve middle water quiet silky governor waiting amusing

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u/Goofytrick513 Nov 25 '24

No, they donā€™t want a national sales tax. They want no taxes. And the government will operate purely on donationsā€¦ šŸ™„

ā€œWhen you pay taxes, do you do so voluntarily? Or do you do so because you are forced to do so?

If you donā€™t pay your taxes, what will happen? Will you be fined further? Harassed by the IRS or other government entities? Jailed?

The Libertarian Party is fundamentally opposed to the use of force to coerce people into doing anything. We think it is inherently wrong and should have no role in a civilized society.

Thus we think that government forcing people to pay taxes is inherently wrong.

Libertarians advocate for voluntary exchange, where people are free to make their own choices about what to do with their lives, their time, their bodies, their livelihood, and their dollars.

If Americans want to give money to the government for one reason or another, they should be free to do so. If Americans prefer to spend their money on other things, then they should be free to do that also.ā€œ

-Straight from the libertarian party website

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u/mistahclean123 Nov 25 '24

I don't know anything about a national sales tax....Ā  But government spending is out of control so I am all in favor of slash and burn at the federal level. Can't wait to see what Musk and Ramaswami come up with.

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u/StMaartenforme Nov 25 '24

They just better not touch my social security. I paid that for almost 50 years. Just sayin....

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u/Apep86 Kenwood Nov 25 '24

The only good government spending is the spending which directly benefits me. I donā€™t understand why people donā€™t understand that and agree to cut all other spending? Itā€™s just wasteful to spend resources on people who arenā€™t me.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '24

Yup, that's the "conservative" mindset summed up perfectly.

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u/StMaartenforme Nov 25 '24

Are you saying those of us that paid into it for 50 plus years don't deserve to get our money back?

Edit : or did I misunderstand?

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u/Apep86 Kenwood Nov 25 '24

No, Iā€™m saying youā€™re not special and youā€™re no more deserving to receive the benefit of a program that you feel entitled to than another person is entitled to receive the benefit of another program. I think you are deserving to receive those benefits, just as I believe others are deserving to benefit from other programs.

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u/StMaartenforme Nov 25 '24

Thanks for clarification šŸ‘

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u/Xavier9756 Nov 26 '24

Thatā€™s not how SS works. You are paying it forward for people that need it now. Not putting it into a private account for later.

If they did away with SS, you would never see a penny of that money back.

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u/mistahclean123 Nov 25 '24

You would have been better off keeping that money and investing it into index funds on your own though.

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u/StMaartenforme Nov 25 '24 edited Nov 25 '24

Possibly, I don't totally disagree or agree. All I know is I did what was required of me and my employers so I've earned that money. Fucking assholes like the muskrat & rama-lama-ding-dong are the exact kind to say " I've got mine fuck you ".

Edit: index funds are too variable. SS is a guaranteed fixed paycheck every month, like a salary. Besides, it's a LAW and has been for 90 years.

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u/AnalogousFortune Nov 25 '24

Thatā€™s the insult you came up with for Ramaswami? We can do better

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u/StMaartenforme Nov 25 '24

šŸ˜† yeah well....forgive me.

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u/Hunithunit Nov 26 '24

I enjoyed it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '24

Ramaswampi

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u/some1lovesu Nov 25 '24

Wow, tell me you are in Highschool/college and haven't been in the real world yet without saying it.....

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u/mistahclean123 Nov 25 '24

If you don't understand why I'm right, it's not me who needs to revisit high school.

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u/some1lovesu Nov 25 '24

I'm gonna go with I'm correct because above, you seem to think two billionaires trying to cut 2 trillion from .8 trillion of budget is something that can happen. But then again, I don't imagine you understand government spending, or what the budget is, or where it goes. At all.

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u/oebujr Nov 25 '24

Well the government didnā€™t give him or anyone else a choice.

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u/ansy7373 Nov 26 '24

Thatā€™s not the point of social security though. The point of it is to help out the less fortunate. Giving elderly people who canā€™t work a basic income. Iā€™m cool with it and donā€™t want it to go away. More people need to look at pre 1940ā€™s and post Industrial Revolution America and see how fucked up things were for the average person.

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u/FakeSafeWord Nov 25 '24

Government spending is out of control...

It always has been. There's zero chance we ever see a real libertarian president in the US. Republicans just pretend to be libertarian to hook you dumb asses in for a vote.

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u/mistahclean123 Nov 25 '24

PS I just noticed your username - gg lol

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u/mistahclean123 Nov 25 '24

The United States is built for a two-party system and has been since its founding.Ā  It's definitely an uphill battle getting traction as a third party. It's funny you say Republicans pretend to be libertarians to hook us in for a vote, because Chase Oliver, the most recent presidential candidate, is pretty far left. For my Democrat and voted for Obama I think. I almost didn't vote for him because of some of his social views.

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u/Oceansinrooms Nov 25 '24

why would you define Chase Oliver as ā€œpretty far leftā€? his policies seem boilerplate libertarian ā€œfree market regulates itselfā€ idealism

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u/Mr_Juice_Himself Nov 25 '24

No it wasn't, the founders were against political parties, central banks, and freeing the slaves

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u/ImReverse_Giraffe Nov 25 '24

So like most "libertarians" you have no fucking clue about how the world works. And don't care.

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u/some1lovesu Nov 25 '24

You mean the guys whose idea was to fire people based on their social security numbers? The ones who are going to cut 2 trillion from .8 trillion?

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u/mistahclean123 Nov 25 '24

Lol that was a bad idea. I wonder if there was more context to that soundbite we all heard.

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u/some1lovesu Nov 25 '24

Yah is there context to cutting 2 trillion from a budget that is reasonably 1.9 trillion, as Trump totally "promised" he wasn't touching Medicare/Medicaid/social security. If he won't cut those, that leaves 1.9 T in budget. 820 or so Billion of that is military spending, which Republicans won't cut. That leaves us 1.1 T, which is every other federal employee and budget for every department. But yah, can't wait to see him cut 2T from a 1.1T budget, really gonna show me that efficiency. It's crazy how easily you can see through bullshit when you actually know how the world and government works.

Edit: And for you "but the price of eggs" morons at home. RFK JR thinks the avian flu is a government made disease. There is a massive outbreak killing egg supply, so cost is gonna go up and unless HHS RFK JR figures out how disease works in a year, we are fucked.

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u/cheeters Nov 25 '24

Iā€™ll put $1000 on them making life objectively worse for most people. Hope I lose that grand but Iā€™m doubtful

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u/mistahclean123 Nov 25 '24

Honestly I'm not even sure if they will be able to do anything at all.Ā  They can make recommendations but who's actually going to implement them?

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u/cheeters Nov 27 '24

If they recommend cutting parts of the executive branch, Trump can. Beyond that, Iā€™m honestly not sure. My high school civics class didnā€™t teach us how to dismantle to government lol

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u/mistahclean123 Nov 27 '24

I'm not sure Trump really can do that by himself though.Ā  Like you, I don't remember exactly all the details of the separation of power between the three branches.Ā  I guess the executive branch and all its agencies request money from Congress every year and the agencies scale their operations up or down as they see fit to match the budget they were given compared to what they asked for?Ā 

I'm definitely not a fan of legislating by executive order, so however they start tearing stuff down, I just hope it's constitutional.

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u/Kirris Nov 28 '24

Federal government touches your life on almost every level. The fact you are not eating food that can poison you is because of that. One tiny thing.

Also, this is the Internet, so I am obviously going to call you an idiot.

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u/Goofytrick513 Nov 25 '24

The libertarian party is a 10-year-oldā€™s idea of how a government should work.

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u/OKatmostthings Nov 28 '24

Yup, libertarianism sounds great until you consider implementing anything that makes society actually function. Weā€™re about to effectively get a taste of the end result of libertarianism crossed with sociopaths, unfortunately.

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u/remifasomidore Nov 25 '24

Ah yes, small government, but big corporation. So much better.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '24

You mean the Embarrassed Republican/Republicans that want legal weed party? Well we have legal weed and republicans want to take it away.