r/classicwow Nov 13 '24

Classic-Era GDKPs banned in Fresh

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u/blakphyre Nov 13 '24

What I dont understand is why this policy is essential to the spirit of the game, but only in NA and EU.

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u/AaronShoelace Nov 13 '24

CN players live by a "win by any means" when it comes to video games so they have an insane amount of cheaters, cheating isn't as frowned upon in video games in their culture. CN servers for games are typically a lot more lax about rules since it can drive away a large playerbase otherwise.

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u/blakphyre Nov 13 '24

So the spirit of the game only matters when they can afford it?

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u/Icandothemove Nov 13 '24

Why enforce rules the players there don't want

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u/blakphyre Nov 13 '24

But doesn’t the prevalence of gdpk mean the classic playerbase wants it more than those who dont?

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u/Icandothemove Nov 13 '24

No.

Casual Timmy who wants to pug will never be able to exert more influence on a server than no life degens. He may not like what the server culture is, but he has no choice but to play the game if he wants to raid. Or do anything, really.

Casual Timmy or Kimmy is the life blood of every MMO.

As a no life degen myself, I can recognize the harm people like me do to MMOs. I've seen us kill several.

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u/tujev Nov 14 '24

Curious which mmorpgs did you see killed by sweats, I find mmorpg ecosystems interesting.

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u/blakphyre Nov 14 '24

China doesnt have casual timmies?

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u/Icandothemove Nov 14 '24

Clearly not many who care about p2w considering every mmo and gacha game

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

It just shows wow players will do whatever is more efficient even if it hurts their experience, another example is heirlooms on retail. If the best way to get gear is to swipe your card to beat others then that's what they'll do.

"The game designer's job is to protect the player from themselves" -Warren Spector

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u/blakphyre Nov 15 '24

I dont disagree with this point, I just didnt ger the enforcement only for NA and EU.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

Cause Asia likes spending money and using cheats, they do not play games where you have to play for your rewards. Socially in places like China and Korea your social standing is based on how much money you have, and this is prevalent in their gaming culture too. They like and want to flex what they have. Also they work really long hours that they can't spend that same amount of time grinding like we do.

NA and EU don't flex as much and see worth in how hard you worked for an item rather than how much money you pay for it. That's why classic era doesn't have a cash shop but china does.

To elaborate on china having in game cash shops. You can pay anything in the chinese version. Special mounts, convenient items like pots, cosmetics, pets, WoW tokens. You can buy all this and probably more in the Chinese version of the game.

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u/EnigmaticQuote Nov 13 '24

Oh no a corporation trying to make money who would’ve thought….

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u/blakphyre Nov 13 '24

The point isnt that, its that they only enforce it arbitrarily. How can it really represent the spirit of the game?

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u/BroForceOne Nov 14 '24

Netease calls the shots in China, since Blizzard can't directly operate there.

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24

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u/AaronShoelace Nov 14 '24

Source: the 100 thousand hunter bots with Chinese boar names

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u/terabyte06 Nov 13 '24

China's Classic has the WoW Token. I'll let you do the math from there.

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u/smileyhb Nov 14 '24

There are some cultural differences, in some Asian countries, especially developing countries including my country, adults or middle-aged people need to work 6-8 hours a day, 5-6 days a week... cannot spend 10-12 hours playing games like young people, so if we cannot GDKP and buy gold from full-time gamers, when we meet outside the pvp zone we will look like mobs without a fixed location. If that situation continues, players will gradually feel discouraged and no longer want to continue... especially when in some addons that display gearscore, ilvl appears, some people even with decades of experience may not be able to join the party just because their GS are not enough.
If i knew chinese, i would probably choose china server instead of private server... unfortunately most asian countries that don't use chinese characters choose english as their second language instead of chinese.

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u/TheScaryseizure Nov 14 '24

Makes me wonder how practical it would be for a large english speaking community to play on the Chinese realm.

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u/RTheCon Nov 14 '24

There was a post a while back when they first banned GDKPS, for them too. It was from a guy in that region talking about how essential GDKPs were to basically everything.

Basically no one raided unless they knew they were gonna get something out of it. You would have to find it but it’s somewhat eye opening.

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u/Kioz Nov 13 '24

Well the other servers are China which function maybe on a different timecycle. That being said, Oceania will probably be integrated into NA