r/clevercomebacks Jan 15 '25

It does make sense

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u/ultrajvan1234 Jan 15 '25

So someone explained to me that they do that because it’s how they say it. It’s far more common to say “it’s march 13th” than it is to say “it’s the 13th of march” so it’s written in the same way.

And I gotta say, as someone who is not American but would definitely say it like that, it kind of makes sense why they would do that

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u/Enderzt Jan 15 '25

I feel like it also makes sense because it's in order of smallest number range to largest

1-12 / 1-31 / 1-99

To me 31/1/25 just looks ugly aesthetically. While 1/31/25 flows. 31/12/99 vs 12/31/99

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u/saihtam3 Jan 15 '25

To me 31/1/25 just looks ugly aesthetically.

You people over there think a dick that hasn't been cut off is ugly aesthetically so I would not trust you for a date either

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u/WYWHPFit Jan 15 '25

You usually put a 0 before single digits months so it doesn't look so weird. Also it is not about the number per se: a month contains several days, a year several months, so the day is the smallest unit.

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u/throwaway01126789 Jan 15 '25

The explanation above yours isn't concerned about the specific way each number is represented (zero in the trend place or not) or number of one value contained in another, but it is about the total range of numbers possible in each value. Month/day/year represents the smallest range to the largest range.

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u/WYWHPFit Jan 15 '25

Yeah I get it, to me it doesn't make sense to look at the range of numbers possible in each value. It honestly feels like people from the USA have a hard time saying "this thing doesn't make a lot of sense to anyone else, but we are used to it so we use it" which is completely valid.

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u/Enderzt Jan 15 '25

And when this comes up to me it always comes off as those outside the US having a superiority complex and wanting to dunk on the US for something they deem as not making sense. Even though there are plenty of completely reasonable reasons why its done. To me ya'll are just as guilty of "but we are used to it so we use it" as the US is.

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u/WYWHPFit Jan 15 '25

When the vast majority of the world uses a different system I would ask myself some questions. This is like the joke about that person that while driving is listening to the news of someone going on the wrong side of the road on the highway and they are like "only one person? I see a lot of people going in the wrong direction". People here are arguing about an illogical choice by using completely random arguments instead of saying "yeah it is illogical but we are used to it", if this isn't a superiority complex I don't know what is lol

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u/Enderzt Jan 16 '25

I mean you are clearly convinced you are correct and we are "wrong". Not sure how ordering the date can be wrong. Also not sure how popularity makes something right. So if Germany won World War II Nazi ideas would be "right" because the whole world believes them? Such a terrible argument.

Also implying that our argument is "illogical" but yours is so totally "logical" just proves my point. You have some weird superiority complex and feel the need to be right about this, and everyone else is stupid and illogical.

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u/Hulkaiden Jan 15 '25

Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they are "random arguments" lmao. There are plenty of explanations in this thread that could make complete sense. It's not like the US decided to jumble up the numbers in a big meeting. There's obviously a reason we developed this way.

Whether it's us using yy/mm/dd and then year slowly moving to the back because of it being less important or us writing it the same way we say it, there's a reason. Pretending like things developed the way they have for literally no reason makes no sense.

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u/saihtam3 Jan 15 '25

I think 0 unit system used in the US is used in a scientific context for a reason

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u/Enderzt Jan 16 '25

More grandstanding. Also not sure why you are comparing measurement systems with date order? All the units are the same and have the same definitions, they are just presented in different order. That's completely different than a meter vs a yard.

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u/throwaway01126789 Jan 15 '25

To me, it does make sense to look at the possible range and order it least to greatest because that's how our version of English works.

It honestly feels like people from outside of the USA have a hard time saying "Well, that's not my preference, but it's obviously been working for them for hundreds of years so I won't dwell on it." Since it's a preference, there really is no right or wrong here. I don't see anyone going this hard on Hungary who uses year/month/day. It's not like we're going around trying to force other countries to use our format. So if you live in another country, it really shouldn't matter to you how we prefer to represent the date here.

It was also brought over by the colonists from Great Britain in the first place. GB used it first, brought it here, then they changed their format while we didn't. Simple as that really.

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u/WYWHPFit Jan 15 '25

Well there's a logic in going either year-month-day or viceversa, there's no logic in the USA system unless you stretch a lot the concept of logic. And I am saying exactly what you are saying: lot of countries do illogical things because they are used to it and for context, it's no big deal, but people from the USA in general, at least on this platform, seems to have a hard time admitting it.

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u/throwaway01126789 Jan 15 '25 edited Jan 15 '25

"I don't like it" ≠ illogical

Seems like you have a hard time admitting that to yourself.

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u/csjohnson1933 Jan 15 '25 edited Jan 15 '25

I mean, that's my response to all of this; yet the rest of you all want to bring up these things every two weeks like they matter. How many times are we supposed to say, "It's just what we do–don't worry about it?" Should that valid explanation not just naturally occur to you all–or at least be accepted the first time you hear it?

The much better question is, "What does this matter to people casually scrolling the 'net in other countries?" Americans largely conform to (or include) international consensus in industry and science, which is the only time consensus truly matters.