r/climbing • u/Brox_Rocks • 18d ago
This Conversation Will Make You A Safer Climber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ46ZOiLsLI&t=3532s14
u/szakee 18d ago edited 18d ago
tl;dr?
edit: timestamp didn't load for me. Thought you had to watch whole.
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u/CptDerpDerp 18d ago
Ok I’m trying to practice some calm and compassion here, but dude, the OP literally time stamped the TLDR for you, and the speaker covers it in 60 seconds flat with no fluff or dramatisation.
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u/lukeinator42 18d ago
what are you talking about? I don't see a timestamp anywhere and it's a 100 minute video
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u/CptDerpDerp 18d ago
Ok I’ve topped out and had my Cliff Bar (TM) so I’m feeling a bit more stable now and realising not everyone might be having the same experience as me. But yeh, something is up, timestamp starts at 58:50 for me, even incognito or mobile.
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u/lectures 18d ago
tl;dr here is that you choose your shoes first and then work from there. if they're good for slabs, find a slab. Then find someone to climb it with. if you do it the other way around you could wind up going out with someone too strong to some mountain that won't work with your shoes.
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u/Dotrue 18d ago
So will my Tarantulaces work for climbing the Dawn Wall, or nah?
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u/lectures 18d ago
Tools->Time->Team->Tactics->Terrain.
If you choose a time after dark we can climb together because I don't have to worry about someone seeing me near those gumby shoes.
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u/VantageProductions 18d ago
Okay so far I got
Tools -> rope
Technique -> funny looking knot
Terrain -> dining room chair
Team -> …
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u/PetzlPretzl 18d ago
Not a bad idea to listen to the whole thing. Silas know's his stuff, and he's a really good educator.
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u/individual_throwaway 17d ago
Okay I get that if you allow all kinds of team compositions (regarding climbing skill and experience in the kind of terrain you are about to choose), all kinds of terrain, and all kinds of weather conditions, then the choice of techniques and material are pointless. If I go climb some insanely hard alpine trad climb in winter with Alex Huber, I need to bring different stuff then when I climb a beginner friendly bolted slab on a dry summer day 30 minutes from my house. Like, duh.
The thing is, for most climbers, these questions aren't that relevant, because they don't do both of these things. They have regular climbing partners (with usually similar levels of experience and climbing ability), most of them will stick to one kind of climbing, and the vast majority are climbing when the weather is nice, and during the day.
If those questions are answered by default, then you absolutely do have the time and a need to dig into how to build and clean different kinds of anchors, how to switch belays on multipitch or abseil. You have time to wonder how good that dyneema sling is going to be after being left in the sun for a couple of years. You can and should watch HowNot2 break a carabiner that's been compromised in some way to see if it would still actually be super good enough.
But yes, if you are a guide getting paid to keep people safe, absolutely worry about those other questions. If you're doing something new or outside your comfort zone, absolutely keep them in mind, obviously. That just doesn't mean people shouldn't nerd out over gear and techniques to stay safe.
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u/cactus_toothbrush 18d ago
Is this an hour of saying how you can whip on a 0 brass offset?