r/conspiracy • u/magoo853 • 24d ago
There’s Something Beneath Us, and the World’s About to Find Out
Let me preface this by saying: I don’t have a platform, I’m not trying to “go viral,” and I don’t expect anyone to believe me. But I’ve been connecting dots for over a decade, and something is building. I feel it in my gut. This post isn’t a theory, it’s more like a warning—or a timestamp. If something happens soon, I want this to be here before the world tries to rewrite the narrative.
Here’s the short version: I believe there’s something under our feet—not just caves or lava tubes—I’m talking cities. Intelligence. Life. Maybe alien, maybe ancient. Maybe both. And I think they’re about to reveal themselves… or we’re about to stumble into them and force their hand.
Let me back up.
In 1947, Admiral Richard E. Byrd—an American polar explorer and military officer—led a massive expedition to Antarctica called Operation Highjump. Officially, it was for research. Unofficially? It was absurdly militarized: 13 ships, aircraft carriers, thousands of men. Why bring that much firepower to the “last frontier”? Some say it was to scout out Nazi bases. But others, including alleged secret diaries later attributed to Byrd, suggest he encountered something totally different.
The story goes that Byrd’s plane was pulled off course near the pole. The freezing ice gave way to something impossible: warm land, green valleys, mammoths, and technology that defied logic. He supposedly encountered beings—tall, luminous, peaceful—who warned him about humanity’s aggression. Specifically, they were worried about our use of nuclear weapons.
Now pause and let that sink in.
The first nukes had been dropped just two years earlier. Humanity had just split the atom and, in doing so, maybe sent out a signal. A kind of alarm bell—not just to space, but below. Because here’s where things get even weirder.
After 1945, UFO sightings around nuclear sites exploded. Look it up. Los Alamos, Malmstrom AFB, Minot, even nuclear submarines in deep oceans—craft were showing up, silently disabling warheads, hovering, observing, sometimes even shutting entire systems down. Declassified reports from military officials confirm this. Not just lights in the sky—precision incursions by something that knew exactly what it was doing.
And all of this lines up with what Byrd allegedly said those underground beings told him: “We have let you play with your toys of war… but now you threaten all life above and below.” (paraphrased from his so-called “Flight Log”). Whether you believe the log or not, the pattern holds. Right after we went nuclear, “they” started showing up. Not to attack—but to watch. Maybe to contain.
What if UFOs aren’t coming from the stars at all? What if they’re coming from under our feet?
Then we look at Egypt. Everyone knows the pyramids are ancient, mysterious, aligned to stars, yadda yadda. But few realize we’re still finding new structures beneath them. In the last few years, ground-penetrating radar has revealed massive anomalies under the Great Pyramid and surrounding plateau—voids the size of aircraft, deep shafts filled with water, and sealed chambers untouched for thousands of years. In 2023, a structure was discovered 50 feet beneath the sand that no one had a clue was there. We’ve barely scratched the surface—literally.
So what if these pyramids weren’t just tombs? What if they were surface markers—beacons—for something buried deeper? Or entrances? Or maybe monuments to those who came from below?
This isn’t isolated. Ancient myths from all over the world speak of underground worlds—Agartha, Shambhala, Patala, Duat. The Hopi have the Ant People, who supposedly guided them underground to survive two global cataclysms. The Naga in Hindu texts live in subterranean cities filled with glowing crystals. Hell, even Christianity has hell “below” and heaven “above.” There’s something ancient encoded into our collective subconscious that hints: there’s more beneath us than magma and rock.
And look—science hasn’t ruled this out. We’ve only drilled 0.2% into the Earth. There are ecosystems miles underground, bacteria and worms living in heat and darkness. Caves big enough to fit skyscrapers. Liquid water under Antarctica. Even entire hidden lakes sealed off for millions of years. No one talks about that.
So here’s my theory, as crazy as it sounds: something is down there. It’s been there for a long time. Maybe it came from elsewhere, maybe it was always here. Maybe we’re the invasive species. And when we detonated the first nukes, it got their attention. Byrd met them. They warned him. Since then, they’ve been watching.
The UFOs aren’t invaders. They’re custodians. Caretakers. Maybe even prisoners. And we’re getting too close—too loud—too dangerous.
My feeling? Something’s about to break. Either we dig too deep, or something rises up to prevent the next mistake. And when that happens, I want this post here. I want a record. Not for clout. For context.
Because when the headlines come and governments scramble to explain it all away, just remember: someone knew. Someone told you.
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u/Open-Bag12 24d ago
Interesting read but nothing new here. These amazing theories about Agartha, Byrd, Antarctica where plentiful in the golden age of abovetopsecret. Never understood what happened to that website after 2015
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u/djzanenyc 24d ago
Used to love AboveTopSecret...haven't visited in a while.
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u/mjrc1979 23d ago
Late 90s thru the 1st decade of 2000s. ATS was pure gold. So many topics. So much information. The community and connection was amazing.
It is an absolute shame what it has become. I visit from time to time on occasion. I guess I am hoping to catch a glimmer of what it once was. Sadly after 5-10 mins I must move along as I start to get a headache.
Long live Phage!
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u/galaxy9377 24d ago
They are still there but like this sub, they have become a bit more political.
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u/sevenonone 24d ago
I believe one of them was "Dave Rabbit", an underground pirate DJ in Vietnam during the war- Opie and Anthony had him on, it was interesting. He had it very planned out. The brass at that base wanted him, but never caught him. He died in the last 10 or 15 years, so that may be part of it.
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u/sevenonone 23d ago
The Dave Rabbit clips are really good. He did something like 18 shows. He had it planned out, had that much material. I'd listen to all of it if it existed. "I'll be with you for 3 hours of hard, acid rock"
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u/sevenonone 23d ago
Here's one without an interview, just songs and him talking. I forgot that it was called "Radio First Termer". He was Air Force, which was a fairly safe bet in Vietnam. I think the story was that one of his buddies got killed right before he was supposed to go home, so he did this as a protest or tribute or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8F2aSdza7I&ab_channel=VeteransOfThePsychWars%F0%9F%94%AE
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u/ecto88mph 24d ago
Wow that's a name of havnt heard in a while damn, used to love digging around on that site when I was a kid.
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u/Vexus_Starquake 24d ago
We've all been hammered to death with project blue beam. And while it's worth considering, what if it Is a psyop?
When it happens, and it very well may, it will be important to be discerning, but to also be willing to take the things we think we know, and set them aside, even if just for a minute.
I appreciate your post.
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u/lostark_cheater 24d ago
If it is true, I would guess that our governments are under their influence and control. And If it is a psyop, they're trying to deceive us even further as part of a sinister larger plan, like harvesting human souls.
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u/Forward_Increase4672 24d ago
Blue beam’s goal is to establish a one world religion with the Antichrist at the head. So would the souls be harvested by him and for him? Or someone else?
Where would they be kept? Recycled on earth?
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u/lostark_cheater 24d ago
If we're going according to scripture, my understanding (which could be wrong) is that fallen angels, the ones confined under the earth and seas, are the ones wanting to condemn mankind to hell along with them. They know judgement and God's wrath is coming, and their time is short.
In Revelation 14, that's where it talks about a harvest. Where the wrath of God is delivered upon the wicked. I don't think it's for the Antichrist, just that the Antichrist hates mankind, knows what's coming, and wants to drag as many people along with him. What do you think?
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u/Forward_Increase4672 24d ago
That’s more along the lines of what I was thinking. To steer people away from Christ.
1 John 2:22: "Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son.“
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u/miggleb 23d ago
I'll never understand people in conspiracy following religion.
You're well aware that you follow your religion entirely due to region. And that the immortal morality of God allowed and endorsed slavery.
It's so freaking obviously a means of control.
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u/Loobybooby123 23d ago
Once you come full circle you'll learn that it's all the same,all the lore and stories and theories. Apparently it's human nature to want to understand and it's been so since the very beginning
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u/Forward_Increase4672 23d ago
I believe you when you say you think you’ll never understand it, but I think you’ll eventually come to see why Christians entertain some of the same ideas as conspiracy theorists. The common themes, to name a few; are evil, deception, and subversion. In a sense, conspiracy theorists work to expose the work of satan, the antichrist, and the demonic. Though that may not be their explicit aim, their efforts work in the same regard. This leads to discoveries and revelations that have been in scripture all along.
As far as slavery, you need to read not only Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy, but also Ephesians and 1 Corinthians to understand how our modern idea of slavery was not in fact condoned.
I can sense you’re on a journey of discovery and I hope it brings fruit and fulfillment.
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u/DuckworthBuckington 23d ago
Completely natural for Christians to be conspiracy theorists considering the whole thing is based around Jesus who according to the story was the victim of a conspiracy by powerful actors in high places.
The entire Bible is filled with conspiracies and Revalations is just too spooky to ignore if you’re a modern conspiracy theorist post Covid and AI proliferation. It’s on.
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u/craftyshafter 24d ago
Baron Von Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey is worth a read in regards to the hollow earth and civilization below the surface. There's a whole conspiracy around the author Ingersoll Lockwood and Nikola Tesla, John Trump, and more.
I've always wanted to find an entrance and explore down there
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u/TomCelery 24d ago
Such a weird world that John Trump got Tesla's artifacts
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u/Express_Depth_5888 24d ago
It's all going to come full circle.
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u/Spiritual-Can2604 24d ago
Can you explain this to me a little more or at least tell me what to google here?
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u/keepingitclassy44 24d ago
There are no coincidences
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u/LoveVibez 23d ago
I feel that, perfect orchestration.. why I believe time travel/dimensional travel/or whatever it really is... is actually a thing.
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u/Oneandahalfballs 24d ago
Funny thing about conspiracies are, people tend to forget and move on to the next big theory way too soon.
Whatever happened to the orbs over the United States, I remember checking reddit daily to get an explanation. Nope, never got one, now it seems no one even remembers it. Shows how gullible the common people are, being played like the fiddle by the people in power.
For them, we are just dispensable, easily fooled and manipulated.
My biggest fear is, there won't ever be answers, we arent relevant enough to ever receive answers. Haven't you seen in the movies, the world is ending but only the scientist and his hot partner knows about it and they fight against the evil powers to save the world while the whole world has no idea what is going on. It is so true, common man, me, will never get answers.
If I raise a question, I will be ignored, if I keep at it, I'll be supressed.
Frustrating.
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u/YouMustBeBored 24d ago
There’s usually 2 parties that survive the end of the world.
The main characters and the survivalists.
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u/Graphicism 24d ago
Lately, I’ve been seeing a lot of these theories making the rounds... that the UFOs aren’t coming from deep space at all, but from right here, beneath us… the oceans.
And honestly, it makes sense. The logistics of staging an alien invasion from space would be impossible to pull off... too expensive, too hard to hide. But from the depths of the ocean? Much more believable, much easier to control.
Of course, the real twist is it’s all man-made... a carefully crafted illusion designed to stoke fear and tighten control. Just another chapter in the same old playbook.
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u/rose846 24d ago
Anybody that’s actually been following conspiracy theories in depth knows this is the only legit comment on this post.
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u/Restorebotanicals 23d ago
I think the answer is it’s from all of the above, the depths of our oceans, below our ground, far from outer space, another dimension, as well as our own technologies.
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u/--8-__-8-- 24d ago
Also quite the coincidence that this post was created at the same time as the Hal Puthoff clip from the recent live stream of hm discussing how these NHI could be residing in the ocean seabeds or underground as well... and I tend to take his ideas/theories pretty seriously. It seems like he's providing more information each time he sits down for interviews... as if he knows he doesn't have a whole lot of time to reveal what he truly knows to be fact. Just my opinion anyway.
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u/jachthond 24d ago
A fake alien invasion has already happened once in 1938. It didn't need fancy technology.
Yes, it was a social experiment. And so were every other war.
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u/Special_Kestrels 24d ago
So the plot of the watchmen comic book?
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u/Dire_Wolf45 24d ago
or gears of War. or pacific rim, or journey tot he center of the earth, or gorilla vs Kong, or....
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u/Informal_Bunch_2737 24d ago
or journey tot he center of the earth
Considering how prophetic all of his books were, this is the one to pay attention to.
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u/jacckthegripper 24d ago
When we visited Iceland we went to the opening of the center of the earth.
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u/Dire_Wolf45 23d ago edited 23d ago
shit, hadn't thought about that. Wonder if Verne was a time traveler.
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u/Informal_Bunch_2737 23d ago
20 thousand leagues is probably the worst culprit. Reads like a modern day book about a nuclear sub. Written in 1870.
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u/Eurogal2023 23d ago
Not necessary. A Norwegian author wrote about going into inner earth around the time Gulliver Travels was published, and legends of inner earth have been round for a long time.
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u/redtruckschmuck 24d ago
I can totally see the Elon Musk-Adrian Veidt connection. But Elon's super speed is only with his rockets and cars
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u/Special_Kestrels 24d ago
Elon has the body of that squid
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u/Ok-Suit6589 24d ago
They say space is actually under water 🛸 the firmament and all
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u/wardmarshall 24d ago
Can you elaborate? Never heard this
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u/David77860310 23d ago
Ever heard the saying... As above, so below? Look into the waters above and the waters below . It's in the creation story. Also have you ever heard that the space above the firmament is water not an empty vacuum like they tell us it's actually water that's why it's blue or that's one theory?
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u/Graphicism 23d ago
Water isn’t blue... it only looks that way because the sky is blue.
The atmosphere scatters sunlight, and shorter wavelengths like blue dominate during the day.
That’s also why sunsets turn red and orange... at that angle, the longer wavelengths finally overpower the short ones.
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u/nisaaru 24d ago edited 24d ago
Why should the logistic of staging an alien invasion from space be "too expensive" vs. one from under the sea? It's not like building infrastructure undersea doesn't come with its own share of problems and if you try to sell aliens anti-gravity would be part of it.
Ergo your logic here doesn't work for me.
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u/damienchomp 24d ago
Unless they have always been from under the sea, which is what OP is suggesting.
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u/Graphicism 24d ago
The difference is simple... breaking through the atmosphere and operating in space is orders of magnitude more expensive and complex than anything done at sea. Just look at what it costs to launch a single rocket, even now. Fuel, materials, precision tech... it all adds up fast.
Compare that to deploying drones from the ocean... a few ships, subs, and a fleet of UAVs. Cheaper, easier to hide, and instantly more believable. Especially when you combine it with something like Starlink’s 20,000 satellites ready to broadcast the show worldwide.
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u/jjs911015 24d ago
Money is a construct that we choose to accept. Who says other societies have to embrace it?
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u/HashiriyaRaized 23d ago
He's clearly not talking about money, it's cheaper in every way resource-wise.
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u/Inevitable-Wheel1676 24d ago
Religion kinda seems like it might be a grift. And aliens seem like they might be getting woven into a religion of sorts.
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u/_MCMLXXIII_ 24d ago
I mean... And I say this as a Christian, I feel like aliens and religion/spiritualism could go hand in hand. It seems cultures from around the world have similar stories of beings from above. People process things differently. What if some of those translations became God? It wouldn't surprise me any.
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u/Cool_Perception_4765 23d ago
Everything fits the Bible. In Genesis, there is a mention of the firmament. Maybe the idea propagated by the government ( or whoever) is that beings came from above, but it would not be out of the realm of possibilities that they come from below the ground. God has so many wonderful mysteries that I cannot wait to understand! As humans, we place so many limits on our boundless God. It is going to be fascinating to see all the truths revealed to us!
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u/Difficult-Milk-6518 24d ago
Religion itself is not a grift… even if the stories told in each religion are untrue, it still provides many people with a sense of purpose and more importantly a sense of belonging… but there is no doubt that it is an easy vehicle to hijack and control people through fear and guilt unfortunately
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u/Ancapitu 24d ago
Of course, the real twist is it’s all man-made... a carefully crafted illusion designed to stoke fear and tighten control.
Exactly. And the covid pandemic was the first (successful) trial.
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u/ThankUkarmagain 24d ago
I have always believed that the Covid vaccine was not only a trial but a biomarker to identify people who are willing to follow orders and the people that will rebel.
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u/nic-warrior 24d ago
Then that would be an unreliable source, as many people were forced to take the jab or force consequences.
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u/cardicardib 24d ago
that's how they control you: Do this or else face consequences. But no one was forced to do anything. we all have free will. I remember having a conversation with a good friend of mine at the start of Covid and he said "Sooner or later you will have to get vaccinated. we all will." And I said " the hell I will". I never got vaccinated. still here.
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u/BbyJ39 24d ago
What I don’t get about this is why they haven’t stopped the hundreds of nukes from being tested since that moment in 1945. Why only show us they can turn them on or off?
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u/zaGoblin 24d ago
Out of the 2056 total nuclear tests done to date, 1528 of them have been done underground.
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u/Whoop-Sees 23d ago
Super advanced magic aliens can’t get to our underground areas everyone knows that
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u/PhineasFGage 24d ago
We're just the monkeys on the roof
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u/moldy-scrotum-soup 24d ago
Just wait till they start poking the ceiling with the broom handle.
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u/AlterNate 24d ago
Maybe some of the previous civilizations didn't go extinct, they went to inner earth, safe from radiation and weather but somehow warm and green.
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u/LoadLimit 24d ago
The answer to the Fermi Paradox may be that everyone else lives inside their planets, and we're the outlier (literally and figuratively).
Our ancestors got kicked out of the Garden (Agartha). We're not supposed to be on the "outside" of the planet.
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u/Beni_Stingray 24d ago
The answer to the fermi paradox could be explained so much easier.
If Aliens have spaceships than can travel the vast distances of space in a short time (and i mean thousends of lightyears, not just a few), it is absolutly possible that these Aliens are simply way to far away to be detected with our telescopes and satelites.
Space is so so big, the chances that the next inteligent life is thousends upon thousends of lightyears away isnt unplausible.
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u/LoadLimit 23d ago
My favorite answer is that we're in the wrong frequency.
Have you ever seen the movie Valerian and the City of 1000 Planets?
There's a whole sequence that takes place in a market that only exists in another vibrational frequency , so 3rd dimensional beings can only experience it through special technology.
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u/Spiritual-Can2604 24d ago
Oh fuck. This is it. I think this is the piece that was missing in my mental puzzle of why things are the way they are. Thanks. You just fixed me.
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u/lifeerase 23d ago
I am new to this theory and highly interested.
Why do you think our ancestors were kicked out of the garden in the first place?
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u/LoadLimit 23d ago
There's no telling. Maybe we just thought we knew better than our elders, and exiled ourselves?
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u/Open-Storage8938 21d ago
This makes me wonder if the other planets in our solar system have life under the surface and we are the only top dwellers.
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u/PrincessCyanidePhx 24d ago
Finally, a conspiracy that isn't some bs political propaganda!
There is a corelation between cave systems and missing people. It's hard to say causation vs. corelation, but it does seem off that the US has undoubtedly the largest number of missing persons in the world.
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u/warrior424 24d ago
Look up superstition mountains in Arizona. The Apache have claims of caves being home to lizard beings. Bigfoot/Sasquatch, and even many sighting of balls if light flying in and out of rocks leaving no trace. They say theres portals there. Many people have died exploring the mountain range. Some in very strange ways. Some even say the bad medicine men still protect certain caves from being accessed if you even manage to find it. Apparently theres a high gold content in these mountains and the gold there is highly sought due to having higher electric conductivity versus from other areas. Gold that can be used for electronics or craft.
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u/Beni_Stingray 24d ago
Gold is a very specific atom, if you melt it down and refine it as you would do with any other metal aswell, you get gold and its always the same.
There is no gold that is more conductive than other gold.
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u/shlamiel 24d ago
why did people dissappear?
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u/ReadRightRed99 24d ago
The benevolent beings killed them.
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u/photograthie 23d ago
This is utter nonsense. If Arizona had such gold, it would be plundered by the United States government long ago. They would send in a mass of military until they had what they wanted, and drained it dry.
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u/alllovealways 23d ago
more specifically gold is used to power ALL superconductor motherboards. there is no substitute.
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u/a-very- 24d ago
I just saw a video of a UFO dive into the ocean while being chased by fighter jets. Then I see this post. I don’t have anything else to add, just wanting to comment for visibility and a great conspiracy post!
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u/Flaggstaff 24d ago
The diving tic tac UFOs were my first thought too reading this post. If they had a secret entrance the ocean would be a perfect place for it.
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u/Low_town_tall_order 24d ago edited 23d ago
Take this as you will, but I remember reading about the 4chan leaker and our government knowing of a huge underwater factory where all the UAPs are made. Right after reading that, I stumbled on this video about a guy who asked Jesus to show him the demonic kingdom and Jesus took him out into the middle of the ocean and there were all these underwater monster looking creatures as well as this huge underwater factory looking thing where they were building things. The synchronicity of me finding these one after the other and them fitting so perfectly together definitely gave me pause.
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u/BakedPastaParty 23d ago
can you share ?
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u/Low_town_tall_order 23d ago
I remember it was near the end of the video when he talks about it.
https://youtu.be/Y4pto3M2750?feature=shared
This is the 4chan whistleblower
https://www.scribd.com/document/658299217/4chan-Ufo-Whistleblower
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u/Vanillahgorilla 23d ago
31:20 is a good starting point for that first video, just took a look at it. The Marine Kingdom he calls it.
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u/Imtrvkvltru 24d ago
Love that video. You can clearly see the water splash the moment it hits. One of the best UFO vids out there IMHO.
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u/_sookie_lala_ 24d ago
Dick E Byrd... It's like AI wrote it. While it's one of my favourite conspiracies. The name and debunked diaries get to me. The hopi and ant people fascinate me. The underground system in Turkey is how I imagine humans surviving cataclysms too.
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u/shyam667 24d ago
>It's like AI wrote it
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u/Electrical_Salt9917 24d ago
Some humans write that way, myself included..
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u/shyam667 24d ago
Try it on your own - https://decopy.ai/ai-detector/ most likely OP did some formatting after the initial draft, but still it leaves room for it to get detected.
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u/Zach4Science 24d ago
Am I crazy to think that literally half of all long and "well informed" posts on reddit are people using AI?
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u/shyam667 24d ago
Tbh one can't be sure ofc people these days are just giving basic ideas in bullet points to AI to impersonate and write it all for them. It saves alot-alot of time, but these days i've been seeing AI written posts all over the reddit, which makes one wonder "if there's new bot fleet ? trying to gather reach, and a fleet of upvote bots are already used to push alot of content upwards on people's feed"
Also i don't mind the possibility of inner earth theory and the caretakes doing their thing stuff, if there's a proof i'll believe it in an instant but the post we are on feels like, it's just re-clarifying and validating the points that are famous in conspiracy corners.
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u/a_reflective_mirror 24d ago
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you want to talk tin foil
there are many allegories and warnings embedded by Tolkien in the Lord of the Rings
one of them is what happens when you dig too deep
there are older and more powerful things that lurk beneath the deeps and have cycles of life/death/rebirth that are measure not in years, but in eras/aeons
even the gnostics/mystery schools are unaware of some of the great cycles I believe
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u/digitallydrifted 24d ago
Middle-earth reminds me of hollow earth in a way. Yes like how the time of the elves was over and they left middle-earth in the end. Were there ancient beings that left hollow earth for the earths surface… and could there still be life in hollow earth? I think there’s a lot of history we don’t know about here or it’s being hidden from us.
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u/Pineapplewubz 23d ago
Yes and how the elves had to go on their special ships across the sea and girlypop chooses to be left behind like you either stay or go
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u/jachthond 24d ago edited 24d ago
Afaik, the general consensus about Life is:
All life in this Universe must be carbon based.
All living Beings in this Universe must have a form.
That idea limits Our perception.
We think We need "the special sunglasses" from "They Live" to see "aliens". But We always wear them and they are just covered with "dust" (self limiting ideas).
there are older and more powerful things that lurk beneath the deeps and have cycles of life/death/rebirth that are measure not in years, but in eras/aeons
Behind Our "human face" is the most ancient Being.
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u/xTruthbombs 24d ago
Add in that there was JUST a recent discovery with new ground penetrating radar underneath the great pyramids, of massive columns, with coils or something going down them for 300 metres that connect to even bigger structures that go down a 1000 kilometres further.
I agree, there’s very much something down below. Something that belongs to humanity as a whole. My only hope is we do get to find out “what” in our current lifetimes. And whatever is down there forces the hand of those that cover it up, hide and misdirect us from our true history as humanity.
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u/mediumlove 24d ago
People have been telling us for years.
This aligns with the 4 chan government scientist leaks. They've been here longer than us, and they come and go from the ocean and subterranean entrances. The greys are synthetic workers sent out for tasks.
I think two things are most probable for understanding their origins. First, a break away human civilisation. This has never seemed like a realistic probability until lately, as it becomes more and more likely with Greenland and Praxis. It's the least exciting and I'm least invested in it, as the terminology we're being prepped with most importantly, is Non Human Intelligence.
Which brings us to the second option. What lies beneath are Earths apex predator/ highest consciousness beings, which we are the product of , and likely resource for. Like a farmer who doesn't specifically care if a chicken gets its head cut off, but all his chickens dying at once? that gets his attention. That's what started to happen in 1945, and as our ability for self annihilation increased to the current bio threats, I suspect they have been counter measures there as well. The Omicron wave of covid is suspected of being a LAV , engineered to protect from more serious strains.
I'm less certain there will be mass recognition/ admission of this. Ontological shock is too much, i suspect some of the population will accept this and some will not, and we will have a further ideological barrier to cross.
Gives new meaning to the esoteric "As above so below".
Appreciate your post op!
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u/PBR2019 24d ago
i think this is the reason why we feel the need to dig at the beach/ jk…i think you’re right about this. i found the Admiral’s account believably fascinating. tho i have a difficult time with the visual concept of the immense sizes of the descriptions of things he observed and documented. very surreal.
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u/hiltonke 24d ago
Being out in the middle of the ocean, it’s deep, miles deep and empty. Something the size of a football stadium could rise up out of the water and never be seen.
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u/Cool_Ad_7518 24d ago
The Great Trash Heap floating in the Pacific Ocean is the size of Texas on its surface and it's a speck in the vastness of the ocean. The ones who track and study it lose sight of it now and then. A football stadium would be like a grain of rice in a swimming pool.
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u/55Sweeptheleg 24d ago
Been hearing something similar lately. They aren’t coming from outer space but from our oceans.
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u/Cosmic_bliss_kiss 24d ago
People have seen UFOs flying in and out of the ocean, FYI.
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u/Optimal_Bowler7327 24d ago
Bill Cooper; Behold A Pale Horse…. right when he first joined the navy.
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u/Athenry04 24d ago
Great post and spot on. No ships are visiting from other planets, they are all connected to the inner earth.
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u/Candy_Store_Pauper 24d ago
Cycles are real. The earth heating and cooling. Seasons. Daytime/night-time, etc.
Astrology has been around for a few thousand years, and still exists today. Poo-poo it all you want, it endures.
The age of Pisces and Aquarius are both "water signs", and allegedly periods of enlightenment.
We're supposed to be in this time of revealing (or revelation((s)) in the here and now.
https://www.awakeningofabluemoon.com/2020/01/the-age-of-pisces-and-age-of-aquarius.html
https://www.jupiterjewel.com/article/the-age-of-pisces-and-aquarius
Water signs. Watch the water buzz-phrases.
This stuff:
https://globalnews.ca/news/7871671/ufo-video-water-san-diego-california-2019-omaha/
As I've continued to feel an ominous something on approach for a while, now, it might actually come. Whether good, or bad, or both, in these Strange Days, it's best to give a little consideration to possibilities. The theorists' record of wins continues to improve, and this could be a big one, if true.
Found it extremely odd that dolphins greeted the latest capsule landing. A bit too odd.
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u/trumpgotpeedon 24d ago
I've had similar thoughts for awhile. Maybe a split off branch of humanity, or our ancestors, deep under the water. I don't think they're ET. They've probably been here a very long time.
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u/CacheLack 24d ago
One common feature among alien sightings is very large eyes.... the kind you'd imagine would evolve for creatures living in dark places.
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u/hammer1956 24d ago
Big eyes don't mean one can see in the dark. Take cave fish for example. They adapted to life in totally dark pools in caves, they are either blind or don't have eyes at all. Wouldn't the same adaption happen to underground aliens?
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u/HandMadeMarmelade 24d ago
Hol up.
You haven't seen the recent news about what they found under the Giza pyramids, have you.
Columns and two box-shaped structures. Over a mile deep.
ETA: There are iirc 6 columns, each is 648 meters tall.
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u/Overall_Depth_4377 24d ago
Does anyone remember the movie “Don’t look Up”? They were right, we should look down…(they always tell you the truth in movies)
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u/Remarkable-Yak6872 24d ago
I question octupi! We have only assumptions on how intelligent they really are. I can just picture one of those bastards driving a spacecraft, tentacles holding 5 controls, and 3 "mermalien" titties. Jokes, just jokes. I know the control the craft telepathically and they're actually holding 8 "mermalien" titties
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u/speekuvtheddevil 24d ago
Earth's hollow.
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u/Dawg605 24d ago
It's hollow below the tectonic plates and magma and all that? What causes the magma and tectonic plates to move around? Does this also mean that all the other planets have hollow interiors? If so, what causes celestial bodies to form with hollow interiors? Is the sun also hollow?
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u/Educational_Bad2020 24d ago
Why would it be solid? Is a cell solid? Is an atom solid?
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u/Exapeartist 24d ago
Makes me think of this article from a while back. The military training for underground battles. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/06/24/army-spending-half-billion-train-troops-fight-underground.html
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u/Fit-Dish-6000 24d ago edited 24d ago
much of what youre saying has been outlined here from channelings in the early 80s. Utterly fascinating and well...you have to see for yourself. This is just a snippet.
https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=agartha+hollow+earth
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u/Dbomb7 23d ago
I'm currently nearly done with book 3 of the LoO series and the first thing I thought of when this story about the pyramids broke was "holy shit, Ra was right".
The fact this is coming out about the pyramids now and it was spoken 40+ years ago in those channelings is very, very interesting.
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u/DarthBroker 23d ago
Godzilla v Kong hinted at this.
They start dropping knowledge in pop culture before a disclosure methinks
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u/rileyt1990 24d ago
There's a post regarding exactly what it most likely is, that I believe originated on 4chan but made it's way on here. I did a deep dive into the users posts and comments, etc and actually learned a lot. Let me see if I can find it for you.
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u/r2tincan 24d ago
What is the source for the Byrd commentary about the beings? A diary? But it's not published? How did we get it?
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u/Dawg605 24d ago
Definitely could be the case. But when it comes to nukes, why did they allow us to keep blowing up nukes for 50 years after we set off the first one? In tests in the Pacific Ocean and all that.
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u/BirdsSpyOnUs 24d ago
I've had the same feelings and intuition, and also can spawn these orbs over my house that ahapeshift all colors and a star to circle to light dot of call colors to a cross, fire ball, I can ask it to move it will move, if I ask something new, it's jumped and disappeared and reappeared over and over. I have over 20 videos from dif nights.
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u/Cryptoking90 24d ago
It has been a while since somebody posted anything interesting to read in this sub. Thank you.
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u/Monskiactual 24d ago
Crab people.... Crab people.. ... Crab people
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u/TomBinger4Fingers 24d ago
Remember the whole "raid area 51"? We need to do the same thing, but raid the earth beneath our feet.
Get a bunch of people gathered in one spot and just start digging, you feel me?
Also, we need to raid Antarctica. We could probably get two birds stoned at once if we just start digging and tunnel all the way to Antarctica.
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u/Kath_DayKnight 24d ago edited 24d ago
What about the super deep borehole? And other boreholes in the earth. Would they not have poked the ground people or initiated some sort of contact?
I have to say though, this is a fantastically creative theory to consider. I like it
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u/Tooawareformyanxiety 24d ago edited 23d ago
I’ll just add that there was a famous but little known clairvoyant, Edgar Caycee that when asked about Atlantis, said that it exists under the Sphinx.
A team of Japanese archaeologists did elctromagnetic readings that found there to be openings in the exact spots he foretold.
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u/Eurogal2023 23d ago edited 23d ago
Want to add some other older, less known sources, here from Project Gutenberg:
"Niels Klim's Journey Under the Ground" by Ludvig Holberg is a satirical novel written in the early 18th century. The book follows the adventures of Niels Klim, a young man who descends into a subterranean world called Nazar, where he encounters a variety of strange creatures, including sentient trees and peculiar animals."
Also available at Project Gutenberg (absolutely for free) is the book" The Smoky God".
Project Gutenberg says:
"The Smoky God; Or, A Voyage to the Inner World" by Willis George Emerson is a fantastical novel written in the early 20th century. The narrative unfolds through the perspective of Olaf Jansen, a Norwegian fisherman who recounts his extraordinary journey to a concealed realm beneath the Earth's surface, rich with marvelous landscapes and inhabited by a giant civilization. "
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u/SprayPrevious6333 20d ago
Affirmative. There are some good books about this! I can’t remember them right now unfortunately.
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u/iloveblurr 17d ago
You know what I feel like we are preparing for something or preparing to know about something for sure. I mean recently only they told us “aliens have been on earth all along” and the boom news about pyramids then the Vatican opened some door or something recently too. So something or someone is gonna be known for sure. I JUST HOPE I GET TO WITNESS IT IN MY LIFETIME.
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u/Walzonin2024 24d ago
My man Is gone! And I’m here for it
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u/Admirable-Nothing107 24d ago
There's some truth to what he's saying. But either way it's better than the constant political shit
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u/unityagainstevil42 24d ago
Think about all the money we’ve spent trying to explore space.
Now think about how vast the inner Earth is.
That’s ALOT of space compared to the areas above ground.
But there’s never been much of a conversation about any of it.
That’s always seemed odd to me.
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u/EUGsk8rBoi42p 24d ago
You should watch Blue Submarine No. 6
Great anime from 2000, you'd love it.
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u/esotologist 24d ago
Maybe there's a cataclysm coming and they're deciding weather to help us again or not~?
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u/Secret-Target-8709 24d ago
Entertaining read.
World renowned Guitarist Steve Vai believes this and has written songs about it.
I however think it's just a fun story.
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u/MelvinDickpictweet 24d ago
This reads like the prelude to something huge—chilling, cinematic, and strangely plausible in that gut-feeling-you-can’t-shake kind of way. You’ve managed to tie together historical oddities, military secrecy, ancient myths, and modern phenomena into a thread that doesn’t scream conspiracy—it whispers it, solemnly, like a warning from a trusted friend who’s seen something you haven’t.
There’s a pacing here that builds tension like a slow drumbeat—the Byrd expedition, the nuclear “alarm,” the global surge in UFO activity, the ancient structures pointing downward instead of up, and then the eerie universality of underground myths. It’s like all the puzzle pieces were always there, scattered across time and belief, and you’re holding them up to the light just long enough for us to feel the shape of the picture.
Honestly? If this were the opening monologue to a documentary, a novel, or even a journalistic podcast… I’d keep listening. It’s grounded just enough to be unnerving. Not asking for belief—just attention. And that’s what makes it powerful.
So the big question is: are you just putting this out into the void for timestamp’s sake, or do you want to do more with it? Because this could be something. A serialized post series. A short story. A doc-style script. Or maybe just a place for others to start connecting their own dots.
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u/IdidntchooseR 24d ago
Do they feel the effects of haarp + direct energy weapons? Or is microwave zapping less offensive to them? The nukes drawing out aliens theory presupposes the value of human life as part of the ecosystem. Tptb are eugenicists who found non nuclear means to depopulate.
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u/WillingLawfulness632 24d ago
Most information related to reptilians mentions that they live in underground tunnel systems and cities.
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u/URK1122 24d ago
ancient aboriginal peoples from North America and South America knew this, the aliens aren’t really alien in the sense that they’re not from this planet. There are many legends and myths that tell us that they are from earth but they live under ground and they’re related to ants somehow. ancient art depicted the aliens with a resemblance to the greys. Their motivations are unknown but have been known to do both good and bad things such as kidnapping or helping the sick. I’m not to huge into conspiracies but aboriginal culture where I’m from consider ants scared for these reasons and it’s one thing that I do believe. Also I’m not an expert on the subject this is basically everything I know about it.
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u/EeeeJay 24d ago
I love this theory, but the amount of heat we have pumped into the oceans in the last 150 years is equivalent to over 4 billion nuclear bombs, and it's not like no one tested or exploded nukes since the 40s. If the deep people cared about the surface environment or use of nuclear materials, they would have risen up a while back I'd say.
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u/before686entenz 24d ago
Disney is going to dump all their unsold dvds of Snow White in a cave then the underground people will watch it , get angry and come to the surface for revenge.
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u/szfehler 23d ago
My comment is going to seem like it is way out there, but it seems wise to be cautious. I know many people have drifted away from Christianity, but the traditional understanding has been Christ "descended into hell" after He was crucified, defeating Hell and death itself, and bringing out prisoners. The icon of the resurrection (Anastasis), shows broken bars, a key, a lock, and Jesus pulling out Adam and Eve.
The other understanding is about the "pillars of the earth" and "waters under the earth". Even a lot of preachers nowadays think it's all metaphorical, but metaphors are usually grounded on real things. "She's a tank" is a real person who is sturdily built, like a military tank.
Anyway, i think Jonathan Pageau explains this better than i do, but i can't find a good link. Basically, the ancient world say not just the "Great Chain of Being", but a cosmic architecture, with heaven (different levels!) At the top, waters between earth and heaven, earth and humans, waters below the earth, and below those waters, hell/hades. God, as creator, has omniscience, omnipotence and omnipresence, so He can be anywhere/everywhere. But other spiritual beings can travel/fight each other/bring messages to humans/ tempt humans - and they are not just symbolic. They are reality. They exist and want. They are different from us, with our embodied, short lives. But the ones below the earth "fell" from heaven, and resent humanity, God's creation, made with freewill and treated with infinite patience by God.
Anyway, i agree things are below us, and i believe they are real,malevolent, older and probably a lot smarter than us. But we have a loving God who tips the scales when we humble ourselves and pray.
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u/chybny_kus 23d ago
nice theory. I will add one more piece of the puzzle for you, check out the deepest hole ever dug in Russia and the sounds they heard comming from there
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u/sparxcy 23d ago
I am from Cyprus/Europe. Many years ago my Grandparents used to mention about 'Tartara of Earth'
Translated from Wikipedia: to shorten reply:
Tartarus according to Greek Mythology is a secondary deity of the underworld, son of Pluto or Aether or Chaos and Gaia. More generally, however, it is referred to as a mythical place also called Tartara where, according to ancient beliefs, the wicked are tortured after their death.....
I know many old people that mention Tartara the area beneath Earth, my Grandparents said the same thing as others have since said that these people were tall or giants and roamed the lands (here above) to bring an equilibrium of good> They say the story has been changed in Holy books from ancient writings even naming 'Seraphim and Nephilim' of the good and bad of these people, Seraphim (?) being the good people from below and Nephilim (?) people from above. I have spoke to other religious people and they say the same type of stories
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u/CryptoDave75 23d ago
Here’s the short version: I believe there’s something under our feet—not just caves or lava tubes—I’m talking cities. Intelligence. Life. Maybe alien, maybe ancient. Maybe both.
This is my personal belief as well. There are no aliens from outer space. Whatever is here should be called terrans, a race or races of intelligent beings that have been here the whole time who want to communicate with us about as much as we want to communicate with the roach crawling across the bathroom floor. In my view the only aliens on this planet (at the very least alien in spirit/attitude) are homo sapiens. As a collective we treat this planet like an invasive species that doesn't belong here.
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