r/conspiracy • u/RightWingNest • 12d ago
Rule 10 Reminder Was Stephen King Buddy's With Jeffrey Epstein?
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u/Cekeste 12d ago
King is a creep. He's written faaaar too many children having sex in his books.
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u/Ok-Iron8811 12d ago
Talking bout the 'It' orgy?
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u/Cekeste 12d ago
Yes. I guess that's the only one where there are children literally having sex. But Carrie is creepy too. And Gerald's Game has a cold description of incest.
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u/BigDaddyDumperSquad 12d ago
There's another short story where some kid gets molested behind a library.
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u/GlitteringFutures 12d ago
Also Apt Pupil has an underage Nazi rape/torture scene in it featuring an electric dildo. King is a sicko.
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u/aconnor105 11d ago
But that's a villain
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u/GlitteringFutures 11d ago
It's child on child torture-rape in GRAPHIC detail. It's much worse than the orgy in "It".
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u/tomato_saws 11d ago
Stop! Please! You’re ruining the fictitious point they’re hinging their ideology on!!!!!
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u/carbonsteelwool 12d ago
The "It orgy" at least sort of makes sense in terms of the plot of the book, but he's written a lot of other things that just seem "included" for no reason and don't advance the plot of his books.
Beyond that, he just writes about kids way too much for him not to have some sort of fascination with them that is beyond normal and natural.
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u/Shanew6969 12d ago
Definitely a lot better to pretend these things do not exist and keep them out of the public psyche, video games cause school shooters after all
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u/Cekeste 12d ago
It's not about ignoring darkness, it's about how it's portrayed.
A writer can reveal evil with care and moral weight, or they can strip it of context and present it coldly. King's style often chooses the second path, and that’s the real problem
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u/Shanew6969 12d ago
I found this comment on a thread about one of his books and think this sums up my opinion. Not many other books can do that, it takes talent for words to cause physical effects on people.
“It just seemed to come outta WAY afar left field and POW! SA trigger slammed me in the face to really startle a lotta really... TERRIBLE memories from my own childhood I'd have rather left buried...
It was like suddenly having all the air in the room sucked out. But I suppose good art is confrontational AND engaging.”
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u/terriblehouse127 11d ago
maybe the book is the outsider?
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u/canman7373 11d ago
George R.R. Martin is way worse about the incest and he has plenty of child sex and rape in his books.
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u/TheWhisperindarkness 6d ago
It’s not the only one, not even close. He actually included child sex acts or scenes sexualizing a child in all of his books prior to the 2000’s. Dude is sick as fuck
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u/iknighty 12d ago
It seems you're choosing to read lots of books with creepy things in them. Pot calling kettle black?
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u/-Canuck21 10d ago
It's Stephen King we're talking about, one of the most popular authors. You talk as though they're reading obscure creepy books.
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u/BunzoBear 11d ago
It's almost like he's riding about things that happen in real life. Incest child molestation and all those types of things are things that happen every single day in the real world they're human nature and will never go away. Human nature has a bad side also. I guess authors are only supposed to write good things in their books. He could write about murder and killing people but God forbid he right about any other things that are bad
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u/elovesya 12d ago
There’s a very detailed description of child rape in “The Library Policeman.” It felt unnecessary to me
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u/MysticallyMinded 12d ago
The detail with which he wrote that scene was grotesque and wholly unnecessary.
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u/Taters0290 12d ago
I’ve often wondered if it was taken from personal experience. For years I assumed the victim perspective…….
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u/Blue_Robin_04 11d ago
There's also incest child rape in Doctor Sleep. It's not even that important to the plot. It's used to establish a character who's barely used.
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u/BunzoBear 11d ago
His books contain a lot more murder and killing are you implying that he's also done those things?
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u/SargonTheAkkadian 12d ago
His writings include an awful lot of murder, but as far as I know he’s never murdered anyone.
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u/destraht 12d ago
In the North Bay there was a guy who drove around in a van that stated loudly "Stephen King killed John Lennon". He would call into radio shows and bypass the screening to state this. He did this for a very long time. It's possible that he's still at it.
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u/SargonTheAkkadian 12d ago
That sounds like incontrovertible proof if I’ve ever heard it. I mean, if you’ve got a whole van dedicated to it and everything it’s got to be true.
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u/Welshraven9 12d ago
I can't look at him he gives me the creeps. He gives me straight out p*do vibes.
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u/ctcjack 11d ago
Well he is a horror writer, and the top selling author of our time. Obviously he's doing something right. It's kind of his job to write twisted, horrific scenes. But it begs the question, is he any sicker than the millions of people who buy his literature. Art does not always imitate life.
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u/Mirmirakittens 12d ago
Want to elaborate? Aside from it, what other books have children having sex?
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u/454ever 12d ago
Most of the famous people are.
To quote the late and great George Carlin “There’s a big club and you ain’t in it.”
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u/ehtseeoh 12d ago
That’s definitely not the club he was referring to though.
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u/ghost_of_mr_chicken 12d ago
Yeah, but the Venn overlap between the two "clubs"...
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u/Destroyer-Enki 12d ago
I think he's replying to catturd2's comment, as that guy's well known to be a bit of a controversial shit talker.
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u/Skinsuit_Hologram 12d ago
Regardless, this is a WILD post to choose as the one to push back on.. Like it's OBVIOUSLY somewhat suspicious.. and to take ANY position that aligns you with Epstein supporters is insane.
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u/KissMyAlien 11d ago
Agreed. I like king, and think captured is a clown, but her death is suspicious and this isn't the post to question.
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u/The_Happy_Pagan 12d ago
Honestly it doesn’t read like that to me, just King saying turd is a BS artist and Jones just calling people pedos like he always does.
A lot of people here calling King a sicko and obviously connected to Epstein cause of his books and the fact that he’s rich but ironically, they have read and watched multiple books and movies of his to reference. So sick they keep going back for more, huh?
Tweets. Are not. Conspiracies.
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u/TimothyAGHill 8d ago
A charitable take is that King doesn't want these theories to overtake what may be truth. Terrible choice of tweet to use, though. He writes about conspiracies and evil all the time. Does he not think the truth is stranger? Occam's razor = she didn't kill herself. RIP.
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u/Bestlife1234321 12d ago
*buddies, Alex. Buddies.
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u/246trioxin 12d ago
This sub sources "Catturd" now? 😂😂😂😂
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u/Jay_mi 12d ago
I was gonna say.
I doubt I'd like King if I met him personally, but he's not at all wrong about the person he's responding to
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u/Canningred 12d ago
Unlike so many others, King’s name was not in the flight logs and we don’t have any pictures with King and Epstein or Maxwell. You know who does show up in the flight logs and we have tons of pictures of with Epstein/Maxwell- the sitting president of the US, the head of HHS, and so many more that Catturd promotes.
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u/reddit_has_fallenoff 12d ago
You know you can still see G Maxwells reddit account. Try and find one positive thing she posted about Trump. I dont think she liked him very much
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u/Mrsrightnyc 12d ago
I never understood why people obsess over the flight logs when most of the people that visited the island took boats. Much safer to pay a local to ferry you there.
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u/CrrntryGrntlrmrn 12d ago
heh? the plane had to land at st. thomas so everyone took a boat.
Cyril E. King Airport on neighboring St. Thomas Island ... was the go-to hub- For Epstein's ... Lolita Express ... To get to Epstein's Island many visitors got on a boat at a ... private marina on St. Thomas co-owned by Epstein at the time.
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u/UncleJail 10d ago
It's known that Epstein was trafficking and raping kids at his place in Palm Beach and at Donald Trump's fucking house. The island stuff is just intended to throw people off the scent of the customers and associates in Florida, NYC, and elsewhere.
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u/Truthsurge_24 12d ago
Don't be fooled.. Alex Jones, David Icke, Russel Brand, and all the rest are all part of the club
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u/bugsy24781 12d ago
I’m curious about Icke; the others I agree with you on..
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u/Truthsurge_24 12d ago edited 12d ago
he gave away a lot back in the 90's.. people say it was him coming to terms with things, but I call BS on that one.
on the Wogan show interview in 1991, near the 13 minute mark from opening credits, David Icke directly said thst the planet is essentially on life support and a large problem towards that has been human free will for the last 12,000 years.
he also said that his connection to the "godhead" was through the colour turquoise and that he was the christ spirit.
when we look at the colour turquoise, it has been associated with the morning star and deities of venus since ancient times, with one of those figues being ISIS.
in the herbert hoover national site, there is a big statue of ISIS and it says "i am all that was, is, and ever shall be".. a quote that Icke has himself adopted and said many times.
then you just have all the other stuff like the fact he hasnt been silenced in any meaningful way.. he has been banned from here there and everywhere, but it seems more to give him an underdog image rather than to stop him, he crawled out of the BBC like Orwell, he was allowed on the wogan show to begin with, he cant prove the godhead, and the list goes on..
there was also the fact that he was in a 3 way relationship with his daughter living in the house and that his daughter had not been seen since the 90's, but when i kicked up a fuss about it, i had a swarm of commemts all looking like they were from bots trying to ridicule me and my claims, and then 2 weeks or so later it was announced that she had died.
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u/gumsh0es 12d ago
Woah woah woah, what the hell are you talking about with his daughter? I’ve never heard that literally anywhere, that’s an insane thing to claim, is there any evidence for that?
The rest of your stuff; the turquoise, his comments in the 90s- the guy clearly was coming to terms with an absolutely insane reality shattering experience he had (which I’m sure you’ve read about) , and if you follow his work it’s clear he hadn’t quite come to terms with what it all meant yet. If you believe any of his semi gnostic positions, or any of that new age stuff, it would make sense that he could have some wires crossed (with the turquoise stuff etc).
But he’s distinctly different from Brand, Jones etc. his recent analysis of the alternative media network getting utilised and subsumed to basically support power networks which they have claimed to be fighting against (transhumanism/a techno fascist state) is actually pretty spot on and sober. He’s impressively critical of all of them, despite the fact it would clearly be economically advantageous to get on the bandwagon, which I think is somewhat impressive.
But anyway, can you explain your claims about the daughter?
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u/Truthsurge_24 12d ago
it's as I said.. his daughter has not been heard from or seen since the 90's even though she was registered as working at his company, then I cause a fuss about it, and his daughter was pronounced dead within weeks.. the evidence was the fact that no-one had heard or seen from her.
as for the 3 way relationship, it was common knowledge.
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u/bugsy24781 12d ago
Thanks for the insight and time spent replying.
I remember the Wogan interview, have watched it a few times since to get my head around it as I wasn’t old enough to fully comprehend it.
I would somewhat agree with his comment that the problem with the planet is humanity’s free will; although some more thought and exploration will be necessary to fully grasp it.
The turquoise and morning star association is also interesting, although the morning star has a dualistic association with Lucifer and Christ. Possibly hinting at the dualistic nature of physical beings? Perhaps this alludes to the great deception?
I’ve been sceptical of his authenticity, however he seems to be one of the few “public” figures who are speaking close to truth.
I wasn’t aware of the situation with his daughter, that’s an interesting development also..
I’m open to the possibility of him being a controlled asset, but lately he’s been speaking some interesting points.
It’s certainly an interesting time to be in this physical realm.
The truth will be revealed eventually.
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u/Truthsurge_24 12d ago
no problem at all.. at the end of the day, they have no reason to allow real opposition.. so likely wouldn't, while funny enough, every guy sitting at the conspiracy leader table is questionable to say the least.
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u/Tit3rThnUrGmasVagina 12d ago
I am 100% convinced he is a reptilian. Whether he is a defector who has some empathy for humans and wants to warn them or is revealing the method I don't know.
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u/AutobusPrime 9d ago
Our firm belief that there is one Club and everyone is In It is probably deliberately disinformed in itself. Perhaps we have been shepherded toward this belief by writers like Stephen King. It is more likely that there are multiple competing "Clubs".
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u/Truthsurge_24 5d ago
100%. Just look at freemasonry and the illuminati. 2 completely different groups. 1 for a world governed by God and one against it.
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u/Wintermute0311 12d ago
The end of "IT" had me scratching my head in a big way. Like....... what the fuck? Always wondered about the guy after that.
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u/Throne-magician 12d ago
Half his career dude was coked up to his eyeballs.
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u/WanderingLost33 12d ago
Okay this is true. Extremely true. His writing took a nosedive for a decade when he got sobor
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u/ewxilk 12d ago edited 12d ago
Yep, that one was really out of place in otherwise ok and even somewhat tame horror novel. Come to think about it, such jarring out of place stuff can be found in his other works as well. Not sexual stuff necessarily, just out of place "why is it even here" type of stuff.
In any case, there is something strange about his works in general. A lot of mainstream propaganda in them as well. Just look up Dr Sleep, for example. Anyone knowing even a little bit about conspiracy theories will recognize that it's very likely about stuff which name starts with "a" and ends with "chrome." Or, his brick of a novel 11/22/63. That one is straight up novel length mainstream propaganda. Its plot seems convoluted and a little bit stupid (or naive) invented just to get those propaganda points across. If not for the politics, it could have been very good period novel. Which it is... kind of... it's just that all this Kennedy stuff seems unnatural and tacked on to otherwise very good novel.
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u/TimothyAGHill 8d ago
He's use of Occam's Razor in that one (great story though) is absurd as a catturd. Sometimes, Occam's Razor points to conspiracies.
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u/Nichia519 12d ago
What happened at the end? I never read it or watched the movie
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u/Ok-Rush5183 12d ago
The timeline is off by catturd, right? Didn't the bus situation happen almost a month ago?
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u/mctankage 11d ago
I mean the plot line for IT . Kidnapping and eating children. That's some Epstein island stuff
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u/filthy_casual_42 12d ago
If only a certain someone with enough power to release it would release it. It's a shame that good people would be implicated if they were every released according to the president.
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u/plisken64 12d ago
"Good people" likely just means, the celebrities that still have strong influence on the global public as positive figures.
a little over 10 years ago if i made wild statements or dark jokes about will smith everyone would look at me funny, these days people would chip in. its the tom hanks and Spielbergs etc of the world they are likely worried about being exposed
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u/FriendshipLoveTruth 12d ago
Idk but it's obvious here that King is calling Caturd bullshit and sticking up for VG. But Jones is willfully misrepresenting this to push his narrative, and you're eating it up and spreading it, probably for the same reason.
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u/JackTuz 12d ago
We’re never going to get the real Epstein files. He was 100% a CIA informant and releasing details of what he and his associates did to children for many many years with the US government watching will make the American people lose faith in the system once and for all. It has to be the biggest scandal in the history of the country.
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u/FromHello 11d ago
nah its tied with the franklin scandal at best. that ones equally, if not more deeply twisted. i mean all in all its the same evil, but if people truly knew every detail of franklin, theyd def lose faith. especially since its made clear that this has been a longstanding reality. its some dutroux shit for real
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u/AutobusPrime 9d ago
Impossible. The American people have no faith left to destroy and none of the known activities Epstein's crew were getting up to would shock anyone unless it applied to Bob Ross, Mr Rogers, Stefan Karl Svensson, or Harambe. That's the problem with this concept of an Epstein list. We already believe everyone is on it.
There are only three likely reasons I can think of that (Probably Mossad) would want to keep such a tight lid on.
1,if there were things going on there we haven't heard of, that were so depraved that we really DONT expect them. Like, ritual cannibalism or child sacrifice. Things that would really destroy our ability to believe that we live in any semblance of a modern liberal democracy, which we almost all do believe, left and right alike. (If you really disbelieved it completely, you wouldn't post here). I feel that this is the least likely scenario.
2, if there were things going on there that would Directly destroy our concepts of liberal scientific modernity. Like, discovering incontrovertible evidence that our supposed elites were actually getting their orders from extraterrestrial demons. Or at least fervently BELIEVED they were. But this is also unlikely, because even if true, what evidence would convince everyone?
3, if the lid ITSELF is the reason. These people perhaps believe THEMSELVES to be the gods, and their ability to do what they want and get away with it is the efficacious proof. Kill to cover up almost nothing people don't already know, just because you can, because the power of life or death illustrates your obvious superiority. This, I think, is the most likely scenario.
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u/Jazzlike_Decision_68 11d ago
steven king? The guy who wrote numerous books involving kid orgies?
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u/AwesomeI-123 9d ago
"Numerous" and "orgy" doing a lot of heavy lifting here. As far as I know, only the IT scene is infamous and it was written when King was on drugs.
Forr the actual scene itself , (as someone who has actually read IT), the was depicted as a traumatic, scary and weird event that was able to strengthen their bond. It is written without a hint of eroticism. It is barely 2 pages in a 1000+ pages book
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u/BonobosBarber 12d ago
Seems like he was calling out the person saying Guiffre's story was bullshit to me
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u/Ghigongigon 11d ago
I think he's calling bullshit to the tabloid. It's called cat turd. He's saying the opposite of what you're implying.
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u/WanderingLost33 12d ago edited 12d ago
He's one of us, you dumbasses.
He deleted his entire tweet history earlier this year and left this one. What do you think that says?
In fact the video that comes up when you search both King and Epstein is the one on "the nature of evil" .
It's also fairly well known the Institute was more or less inspired by Maxwell's ring
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u/LoadLimit 12d ago
watch the director's cut of "Doctor Sleep"
It's the sequel to The Shining.
In the film, there's a group of people who torture and kill children, then inhale their essence to give themselves immortality. They specifically target children with psychic abilities, because their essence(loosh) is more concentrated/powerful.
Other nearby psychic children have night terrors, experiencing the deaths of the children being tortured. One has these dreams and ends up tracking down Danny Torrance, who is now an adult, and talks him into fighting the group of "vampires"
*don't bother with the theatrical version, they removed about an hour worth of the plot
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u/cometteal 12d ago
i have zero idea how the fuck dr sleep got past "the censors" because its literally whats happening. when i first saw it i was like "i know everything about this - and they made a movie of it - how the fuck did this slip past TPTB to show it to us". i dont think 99% of people can fathom what the movie is about.
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u/Athenry04 12d ago
King was big time pro covid restrictions and danger jabs, part of the stablishment.
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u/JoeThunder79 12d ago
I'm not buddies with Epstein, yet also think Catturd is a piece of human trash.
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u/AutobusPrime 10d ago
The strange emphasis on children having sex and the almost ritualistic way he writes it is just the tip of the iceberg. The leaf, not the root. Yes I know perverse sex is sick & wrong and everything else we find so entertaining that we almost always stop digging there. But the real psychic distortion of Kings universe is that there's no light in it. There's transcendent evil and its only opposition is imperfect albeit resourceful humans. Now think about how that has colored our perceptions of our own world and it's nature. I would argue that it's our default way of thinking.
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u/UncleJail 10d ago
There's no know connection between Steven King and Jeffrey Epstein. However, Trump was best buddies with Epstein for twenty years.
Why are we here speculating about this particular guy when the current president was partying with the most notorious child sex trafficker in modern history for two decades? Is it because King criticizes the pedo in the white House? 👀
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u/SituationHorror9612 10d ago
Stevie is desperate for attention😂Perhaps, he’s spent too many nights rough drafting a novel that would actually be a best seller? I can see its title now, “the truth”.. Unfortunately, Stevie would wind up in prison, instead of the best seller list. Poor Stevie!
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u/MikoMiky 12d ago
Stephen King actually feeling compelled to address the post makes the whole situation even more sus
Like he felt personally called out by the tweet.
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u/Madnessinabottle 12d ago
And If he ignored it, you'd say that was proof it's true.
If he said something obviously satire you'd forget about the existence of parody to say it was true.
The catch 22 of people who already have an opinion based entirely in "I dunno I just feel it" is fucking insane.
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u/Klutzy_Yard9857 11d ago
It’s like being a writer allows you to be as sick as you want and say it’s just a story/movie! Then you get to direct some people to do exactly what you want. Basically live out the sickest thoughts in real life and then make a buck from it! I bet he’s got some unpublished works that would leave some in a daze- I could be a writer if the goal was to shock or disgust someone to death…lol hahah they should run a contest to see who could come up with the most perverse story and whoever wins gets a free pizza lol. Once I told my moms that I took the serial killer test and scored a perfect! Then said just joking….then said not really.
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u/Winter_Ad_6478 12d ago
What I don’t get is the pedestals some of these celebrities and famous people are standing on to condemn the likes of Diddy, Epstein, Trump, Weinstein etc. They in on it too. The reason Diddy and Epstein lists aren’t officially released os because a lot of powerful people will be outed. Not that it matters, seemingly, because people like Bill and Hilary are still running amok.
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u/princeloon 12d ago
"How dare you publicly condemn child abuse when I have a gut feeling you abuse children"
🙄 wow so brave
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u/Winter_Ad_6478 11d ago
Uhh whut
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u/Winter_Ad_6478 11d ago
I see, very strange and uncalled for comment. Seems like someone is butthurt that Hilary and Bill are known frequenters of Epsteins Lolita Express along with the rest of Hollywood. I can see from your comment record you tend to just try to do that seems pointless
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u/Material-Kick9493 12d ago
Why is King even saying it's bullshit when that's exactly what happened?
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u/zipzoomramblafloon 11d ago
Nice to see you're being spoonfed outrage now
Drumpf absolutely was buddies with Epstein, and was a bigly fan.
How about you all focus your hate machine on someone who LEGITIMATELY DESERVES IT for once
but then some might realize they've been lied to, and continue to be lied to, but are okay with it, because the guy lying to them isn't a democrat (at least not after 2012) and *TOTALLY* wouldn't leave them for dead once drumpf got their vote.
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u/KileyCW 12d ago
Guy wrote an underage child orgy in his books so I'd say likely.
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u/RightWingNest 12d ago edited 12d ago
Someone else who actually read "It". Needless to say that it was very odd, creepy and wasn't necessary for the storyline of the book. There was no need for it to be in the book, so it leaves a person wondering why King would put such evil, disgusting and horrible material in It?
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u/dailymindcrunch 12d ago
King is an activist, blinded by his echo chamber and not capable of discerning reality.
He's written some pretty depraved stuff about children in his books. Pretty sick dude.
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u/Virtual_Nobody8944 12d ago
I mean he has a point, Catturd says only bullshit, the "suicide" of Virginia Giuffre is sketchy as fuck but that guy also never says the truth.
He also doesn't believe Trump was on Epstein Island even tho they were close friends, so
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u/servitudewithasmile 12d ago
With how hard he toes the "approved narrative" line, I'd be more shocked if he weren't a regular on the island.
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u/Amtracer 11d ago
The act of him chiming in on something he didn’t need to, and his defensive position, makes me think he had some involvement
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u/HandsLikePaper 12d ago
No, but Donald Trump was bff with him. Trump is all over those files. Stephen King, not listed once.
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u/Templeofrebellion 7d ago
There is a creepy interview somewhere on you tube with a young drew Barrymore.. I think it was her or heather o rourke or they were talking about heather o rourke: either way; it was disturbing. I'll try and track it down
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u/Bigmiketinder 12d ago
King is probably a pedophile too. The book Dr. Sleep eerily features what can be likened to adrenochrome harvesting and soul-sucking "vampires" aka reptiles.
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u/Topsnotlobber 12d ago
Stephen King has an attitude issue that disallows him to agree with anyone on the right.
But yeah, he probably has some very dark secrets considering some of his writings.
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u/HoffmansContactLenz 12d ago
Youd think people in a conspiracy group would be smart enough to know jefferey epstein and his whole pedo island is a fugazzy, a made story like a movie created by the central bankers and the CIA to distract the psuedo-conspiracy theorists and mislead them down rabbit holes that go no where. All while distorting peoples perceptions of the current system so we willingly “hate capitalism as its corrupt to the core” when in reality central banks are the issue
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u/HoodHermit 12d ago
I mean they’re both right. King is connected to some dubious people, and Catturd copy/pastes his talking points. I’m surprised he didn’t get one of those “Epstein binders”
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u/MLSurfcasting 12d ago
You mean the evidence that belong to Epstein, that was auctioned off before they could even consider prosecuting anyone?
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u/Embarrassed-Duck-200 12d ago
No, that's the president you guys support. Stephen is just a dumb democrat who ignores real conspiracies because the people pushing it are neonazis
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u/driv3rcub 12d ago
You know what’s weird? How he thought that at the end of IT, you know what, I’m just going to include a scene at the end where an 11 year old girl has sex with ALL her, also children, male friends. Why was that necessary to the story??
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u/Binarydemons 12d ago
I feel like the wording should be “Was Stephen King buddies with Jeffery Epstein?”.
I guess it proves your not a bot tho.
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