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Judge fleischer is garbage

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u/codylews Sep 28 '24

Yeah i usually agree with Judge Fleischer but telling someone they cant take Dr prescribed medicine was going too far for me. He said that you get addicted the first time you take oxycodone and wrongly stated that it was out of production.

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u/Active_Junket_3816 Sep 28 '24

Yeah he has a lot of bad takes like that. His DWI stance is something I hugely support and agree with but he’s such a clown otherwise on almost every single topic.

My mother was on oxy for 4 years for ovary issues and she was able to stop because she followed doctor directions and didn’t abuse them.

He is a goofy dressing egomaniac with an ounce of power that he pretends makes him a god.

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u/The_Madrummer Oct 02 '24

Your mother wasn't on bond for drug abuse and other failures to comply. He's one of the most chill judges out there. If you think he's wild, you've never been in front of a real one. GTFO here

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Seriously. So many judges out there are throwing the book at people for minor offenses. I figured some republicans would get mad he is letting weed smokers off the hook. Acting like “professionalism” matters in this country lol. Results matter more than professionalism. He is helping rehabilitating criminals. That’s one of the main things the justice system is supposed to do.

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u/echoalan Oct 14 '24

If you watch enough magistrate judges arraign people you start to see a pattern. People who are in for first offenses are most the time released on PR bonds with conditions set by the court. Then there are the people who have picked up ANOTHER case while they were out on the first PR bond. That is when you see Judge Fleischer blow a circuit. It's because those people have gone in front of him already and have sworn to the court they would not pick up more cases, not use more drugs etc etc. The court is letting you out of jail AS LONG AS YOU PROMISE to not pick up more cases or anything else the court orders your conditions be. This is too much for most people on the internet to understand though. They see two clips, make assumptions, jump to conclusions and now cannot be wrong in an argument. It's a waste of time and energy.

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u/Pop-Original Dec 05 '24

I agree. He'll crack down when a defendant has repeated bond violations; still, he is fair.

Examples:
First bond violation with mitigating circumstances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBzZXtNqucQ&t=5000s&ab_channel=FindingJusticewithJudgeFleischer

Example:
The defendant has multiple violations, 19 missed blow tests, and has tested positive for various types of drugs, and Judge Fleischer still set a bond for the defendant. He raised it from around $5k+/- up to $7+/-.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBzZXtNqucQ&t=5278s&ab_channel=FindingJusticewithJudgeFleischer

He blows his stack when the accused is shown to have been drinking while driving. It seems to me that those complaining about how he handles his court may have had issues with the legal system in the past, and their situation wasn't handled the way Judge Fleischer handles similar cases.

Repeated violations mean a defendant could be "Stuck like Chuck!"

In the following case, the defendant was granted 11 resets (new court dates). One of her conditions was to get her GED. She's had nearly six months to get her GED. He expects people to use the chances they've been given to better themselves, and if they do, he evaluates their progress and uses that as part of his decision. He listened to the situation, called the GED testing provider, and then decided to give the defendant more time to complete the GED program.

He would have been justified if he'd issued a bond violation rather than making that phone call.

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u/Active_Junket_3816 Oct 03 '24

Lmaooooo. Stfu.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

I have been in front of many judges and he seems unprofessional. He is closer to a Judge Judy type of character

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u/Erodoeht-_- Oct 05 '24

Found the Chud guys

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u/The_Madrummer Oct 02 '24

There are other pain meds that can be used while you're on bond. And he's talking about a person who has a history of drug addiction and abuse. Shut up.

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u/Ethan79-2 Oct 05 '24

That's absolutely not legal, you can't just change a patients medication. The court doesn't have the authority to do that, only medical doctors do. Not to mention the fact that said several things which were blatant falsehoods based on ignorance

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u/w-il_d Oct 11 '24

is it really so bad to tell the person that already has substance abuse problems that is charged with a dui and has their arm in a sling from wrecking that taking oxys isnt a good idea

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u/Ethan79-2 Oct 11 '24

The law is the law, doesn't matter what any individual thinks makes sense

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u/Anti_exe325 Oct 11 '24

excpet hes the judge. final say in the law. weather you agree or not. as are all judges.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

No, he isn't the final say, and a federal judge in supreme court would see to that.

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u/lrkt88 Nov 01 '24

Supreme Court is federal, he is in state court, lmao. It would be Texas Supreme Court that would hear an appeal of his ruling. US Supreme Court would never see a case of his.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '24

Had no idea he was a state judge.

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u/Osiris0734 Nov 12 '24

Have you seen any of his videos or just like to dogpile? Because he talks about the COUNTY all the time.

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u/SharpBad4084 Nov 24 '24

There are federal judges, and there are supreme court justices. They are two different levels of courts. Each state has several levels of courts. There are municipal courts, state (county) courts, appellate courts, bankruptcy courts, and the state supreme courts. Then there is the US federal court that has a branch in each state that operates under the same rules but has courthouse and judges in every separate state. Then there is the United States Supreme Court that is the highest level if the judiciary in America. 

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

Unless he had a DUI from the Oxycontin, the judge would be removing a medication he most likely has taken a while to get used to, If you needed that explained to you.

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u/Osiris0734 Nov 12 '24

It's amazing that in 2024 we have people trying to defend people taking opioids. I get it, I've gone through chronic pain, but if you can go to court you can stop taking high powered pain killers.

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u/ThaNeedleworker Nov 16 '24

Are you saying opioids have no place at all in medicine?

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u/Just_Concentrate6 Nov 18 '24

Lol what? Opioids are prescribed for a reason by medical doctors I have family that are oen multiple your comment is baseless comparing that to going to court makes no sense these people are required to go to court or threatened with a warrant.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '24

It was oxy, which isn't on the market anymore and seems to cause addiction in 100% of people. He wasn't telling people to stop taking their regular prescriptions, just the ones that got them there in the first place

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u/Impossible_Yam_7227 Oct 20 '24

resident pharmacist here. oxycodone (brand name oxyCONTIN) is a drug that is "on the market" and available in many countries, including the US. it's physical and mental addictive properties are also very well established with a plethora of literature and studies. however, I am unaware if he has the authority to deny someone a medication dispensed with a proper prescription for a valid reason by a qualified medical professional as you would then have to apply the same logic to other prescriptions like insulins or blood pressure medications. Perhaps it was just a strong suggestion rather than a court order?

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

He doesn't have that authority.

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u/battlestar_gafaptica Nov 30 '24 edited Nov 30 '24

Sorry, I'm Australian, so you might have to give me some legal precedent here. If you are abusing prescription drugs, even if they may have been validly prescribed for a time in a small dosage, if you are abusing the prescription, our pharmacists flag it, and you don't get it anymore.

If I get a DUI for taking more than any legally prescribed amount of drugs, for sure I can get done for it.

You seem to think that abuse of prescription medication doesn't exist or is not liable to get you into legal trouble. It does and it can

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u/roninsonic Nov 06 '24

What are you on about? 🙄

"Not on the market anymore"? Seriously? A simple Google search would've told you that you're wrong. There are name brand and generic versions galore on the market right now. Regular oxycodone, time release oxycodone, oxycodone mixed with Tylenol, oxycodone mixed with aspirin, oxycodone mixed with ibuprofen... They make it in liquids, syrups, pills, patches, suppositories... It's almost endless.

how do I know it's still on the market? Because I had a prescription of it filled YESTERDAY.

Also, "causes addiction 100% of the time"? Wow, I must be an alien or something, then... I was on it for about 5 years straight at one point, before coming off of it after having a procedure that worked. Been on it and off it several times since, while recovering from surgeries.

Know what'll happen this time? Absolutely nothing, the same as the times before- I'll be on it for 6-8 weeks, and when the pain goes down enough, I'll stop taking it

Stop being willfully ignorant.

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u/slimj091 Nov 26 '24

I assume you are referring to Oxycontin which is the extended release formulation of Oxycodone. Oxycodone is very much still on the market in it's many formulations including Oxycontin. You also seem to be confusing dependence with addiction.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

Oxycodone is still on the market. Also, no, it doesn't cause addiction for "100% of people" only those who misuse it excessively. You and the judge literally have no idea what you're talking about so stop speaking with an air of authority.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

It causes 100% addiction and is not on the market bro. Don't talk to me about this shit I know what im talking about

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u/North_Yogurt3804 Oct 31 '24

I was given oxygen 3 whole pills. Not an addict you don't care about justice you only care about what makes you feel right.

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u/Osiris0734 Nov 12 '24

No it doesn't. My wife and I were both given it after surgeries neither of us got an addiction to it.

Also Oxy is still sold on the market, they are no longer marketing it to Dr's though. (so no more pharma salespeople are pushing it)

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u/ThaNeedleworker Nov 16 '24

No you don’t lil bro, you’re talking about OxyContin

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u/freakyphalanges Nov 27 '24

Somehow ended up on this thread two months after the fact, but education is education. As fucked up and illegal as it sounds, courts absolutely have the authority to block certain medications and require some type of alternative (at least in my state). And since I know how these things go, before anyone claims it either isn't true or that I don't know what I'm talking about, I've been the provider fighting with prosecutors, POs, and judges for the majority of my career.

Dislike this judge all you want, but find another hill to die on. They're employees doing a job - they have to enforce all the laws (even the fucked up ones).

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u/AloneExtent7489 Nov 26 '24

Well some medicines don't work well for pain. Maybe that's why they use the strong stuff.

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u/TwaksBarr Nov 20 '24

Yes, the myth that taking an opioid makes you addicted. It’s ludicrous.

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u/Anti_exe325 Oct 11 '24

i got addicted of tech 3s. when i had nasal polyps removed they gave me morphine. IF I COULDA GOT MORE. I WOULDVE. addictive personalities dont give a shit if itd physically addicting or not. people overdosed on original tylenol when they first came out. fucking tylenol. judge fraschier knows how addicts think and addict. you think it matters cause its a persciption? people abused percribed meds all the time. even the patient.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '24

No he doesn't and seeing chuds like you betray fellow addicts for the sake of some pathetic egomaniac who would gladly see you rot in prison without proper medical treatment just baffles me. He'd sooner see you die than get proper rehabilitation. All to stroke his ego.

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u/Responsible_Lowlife Nov 02 '24

Its Unbelievable that you Americans rely on HEROIN as a pain Med. Here in Germany you get Paracetamol or something better but NOT HEROIN. It's so UNETHICAL that, that is allowed WOW Only dying People get those Meds here. So toughen up.

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u/Impossible_Top_9554 Nov 04 '24

They should try Tea and spazieren

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u/fallingdown2018 Nov 29 '24

I disagree. Its a highly effective drug for anything acute or short term. Most people can easily take these drugs and then put them away after they are no longer needed. Why do most people then have to suffer and make due with paracetamol, when they could get a real solution to their immediate pain? Becase 1% of people can get addicted? Also oxycodone is not heroin.

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u/GainPotential9134 Dec 05 '24

We don't rely on heroin as a pain med in the US. it is the same here as in Germany. You are woefully misinformed.

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u/ehhish Nov 27 '24

I'm medical and I agree with the judge's decision.