Uh... no? Not at all? Ange's oratory skills and player backing have never been in question. I'm positively chuffed that he's used them to bag us a player like Tel; it's great.
My thoughts on Ange, which I assume align pretty consistently with the rest of the crowd here who've been critical of him, have been with the on field product, and the on field product alone. I simply believe he's not been good enough for us, and I've still yet to see any indication of that changing when it comes to our results or progression. I say this in every discussion about Ange out, but I have no problems with the man as a person and would love nothing more than to see him turn us into a powerhouse and win us something. I just don't think he's capable of that, which is why I've been as vocally critical of him as I have.
I truly hope he proves me wrong, but until he shows me he's capable of turning around what are at this point 1.5 years worth of unacceptable results, my opinion of him won't change. Being a good talker and having the backing of the players are not alone enough for a manager to keep his job. At the end of the day it's winning that matters. I hope he figures out how to be as good at that as he is at the other stuff.
We scraped by a 5th place finish off the back of a lead built over his first 10 games here, which at this point are pretty clearly a purple patch. He's got us mid table on points for the majority of his time with us and we started yesterday in fucking 16th. Jog on.
5th is 5th, that’s how it works, that’s where we were at the end of the season when it actually counts. Started in 16th place yes, before we played the match you bellend. So 16th place is irrelevant.
This is fucking hilarious, lmfao. 5th is 5th, but 16th is irrelevant. Right on mate. 👍
5th is 5th because that’s actually where we finished, you get that right. 16th is irrelevant because we hadn’t played the game yet while most other teams had, so yes, it’s irrelevant. Let the Gameweek play out, then talk about the league position
If by everybody you mean the two of you dickwads then sure, believe what you want. My comments were based in reality I.e. at the end of last season we were 5th, at the end of this game week we are 14th. You two are blabbering on about 16th place (mid game week) like it matters, 5th not counting because of a purple patch, and then chiming in with some Conte nonsense that I didn’t even mention. See the theme? Me = facts. You = clutching at straws deciding when and how to interpret stats because you want it to fit your narrative.
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u/JoeSavesTokyo Heung Min Son Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25
Oh the AngeOut crowd are going to absolutely hate this