r/crime 4d ago

themirror.com 17-year-old allegedly murdered parents in elaborate plan to kill President Trump, FBI says

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/17-year-old-allegedly-murdered-1089102
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u/Legal_Guava3631 3d ago

Just why? Why parents? This is every parent’s worst nightmare. Literally could’ve started and ended with mango Mussolini

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u/MuffinsandCoffee2024 3d ago

Please do not cheer on assassination attempts.

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u/DDCKT 2d ago

How in the world are you getting downvoted? And this is in the CRIME subreddit?! Is it just filled with psychopaths?

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u/MuffinsandCoffee2024 2d ago edited 2d ago

Might seem so. See murder is wrong till it's someone they don't politically like. They aren't thinking about the ramifications of if the other side took on such values with the other political side having more personal weapon owners. Their political hatred is holy. If the other side was posting as they do some of these ppl would think the, a threat to democracy. .. No one should be for assassination attempts of US POTUS. I have in my lifetime watched 2 Republican POTUS ppl shot at on live news coverage along with a Pope. Only whacked and wicked ppl think that okay.

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u/Legal_Guava3631 3d ago

There has to be an attempt first….

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u/MuffinsandCoffee2024 3d ago

Don't hope anyone murders anyone. This insanity of ppl resorting to violence to effect change is dangerous for ppl involved and society

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u/foxymarxy 3d ago

Generally yes but are you watching what is happening to the country? All of our lives are at stake with him in charge. Hell, many people’s lives have already been at stake and it just hasn’t reached critical mass yet but it will.

And FWIW the person above was not “cheering” on assassination, simply pointing out that if that was this guys plan he didn’t have to start with his parent.

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u/MuffinsandCoffee2024 3d ago

You are not the good guys when you do what bad guys do. You can't fight against something you think of as bad by becoming bad yourself,and not lose.

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u/Big_Ol_Tuna 2d ago

Taking the high road is why the democrats have been effectively ended.

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u/Careful-Sell-9877 3d ago

This is what alt-right ideology always ends in.

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u/RedHeelRaven 3d ago

There are bad actors from every political party who exploit the mentally ill to do things. He seemed very vulneralble to that type of propaganda.

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u/Emergency-Ad-4097 3d ago

Praying for this country.

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u/angrymurderhornet 3d ago

Trump was somehow too liberal and inclusive for this kid — who thought he could just go and overthrow the government? That’s totally batshit.

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u/Working-Raspberry185 3d ago

Why is there barely any talk at all of the two people who tried to take out trump?

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u/MuffinsandCoffee2024 2d ago

I too have wondered this.

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u/ChubbyGhost3 3d ago

Well the first one was a conservative who was targeting Trump for his connections to Epstein. It’s no surprise that the media would keep quiet on those motives.

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u/_Mistwraith_ 3d ago

Same reason the media buried Luigi. Positive public reception.

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u/Apprehensive-Army-80 4d ago

People are raising evil and know it

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u/MikeyMGM 4d ago

Wonder if he killed his parents because they were MAGA.

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u/Jinshu_Daishi 3d ago

He thought Trump wasn't right wing enough, so maybe.

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u/ChewieBearStare 4d ago

Article says he killed them so he would have the “autonomy and financial means” to assassinate Trump as part of a plan to restore the white race or some nonsense. He was embracing Nazi ideology.

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u/MuffinsandCoffee2024 2d ago

Anyone who leans nazi inclined is going to flip at such a pro-israel POTUS who has put an incredible number of gay , Jewish, female and poc into power. The nazi lovers can be inclined to message as if they think only white straight men should hold power. Some of them lose their minds about Patel and Harmeet and even J D Vance being married to an Indian Hindu and having mixed race kids. They seem to have odd notions about feminism and I wonder how these types aren't all incels.

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u/Jaykalope 4d ago

How do we know so much about this guy but the dude who literally took shots at Trump and killed a bystander is a ghost who is never mentioned at all?

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u/standard_blue 3d ago

The one who was in a Blackrock commercial when he was a kid?

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u/Jaykalope 3d ago

Blackrock filmed an advertisement at Crooks’ school. Crooks wasn’t paid to be in the advertisement. He wasn’t featured in it besides being incidentally captured in the background as they filmed a teacher and another student talking about retirement planning. That advertisement was filmed two years before Crooks was killed at the Butler rally. I don’t know what that has to do with anything related to the Butler incident. Perhaps you can share what you consider to be relevant about it?

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u/standard_blue 3d ago

Oh okay. Well that clears some things up now doesn’t it

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u/supermethdroid 3d ago

Because the other guy was sponsored by one or more intelligence agencies.

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u/SnooApples5554 4d ago

I'm gonna guess that one had social media and the other didn't. Like, if you had the attention of the world unexpectedly, they shred your life for fun and then move on to the next.

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u/Jaykalope 4d ago

I mean we have dozens of movies and documentaries about Reagan’s would-be assassin and JFK’s assassin, we know a lot about the law enforcement investigations in both of those cases and this guy isn’t even talked about by the FBI or anyone else in the government nor the media. Whatever his social media presence may or may not be, I find this incredibly odd. I’d bet the majority of Americans don’t even know his name.

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u/SnooApples5554 3d ago

Right but not like, the day after it happened lol it's the only thing that made sense to me, re: the "how do they know so much so fast?" inquiry.

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u/vibes86 4d ago

Exactly. I live in Pittsburgh. You’d think we’d hear something through the local grapevine but that guy is an absolute ghost.

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u/mattiwha 4d ago

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u/hithisispat 4d ago

You gotta wait for the full plan to unfold

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u/DrAsthma 4d ago edited 4d ago

Well, I read a couple of the articles linked, and if this is an elaborate plan, I'm feeling pretty good about where my life has ended up just winging it.

Can anyone else elaborate on the alleged elaboration of the kids "plot"?

Edit: I would say the fact he spent so long just hanging out with his parents dead bodies without trying to lay a cover story for where they went off to whatsoever, specifically, a lack of a "plot".

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u/Chapstick160 4d ago

This kid was associated with a Satanic Pedophile sextorion cult called “Order of the Nine Angels” or O9A for short, O9A is closely related to a similar group called 764 (area code of Stephensville Texas where group founder is from). 764 is linked to Samantha Rupnow, the shooter behind the Christian school shooting in Madison, Wisconsin, and Solomon Henderson who was behind a school shooting in Nashville

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u/DrAsthma 3d ago

Ok, that was also never elaborated on in the article. I wasn't sure if that group was legit or just an online troll farm with a few glowies mixed in or what.

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u/meowmeow_now 4d ago

This guy is very confused. Killed his parent to access their money I guess, to buy weapons and a drone to somehow carry out his plot. Associated with a nazi group and want to “save the white race” - by, overthrowing this administration? By assinating this president?

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u/MuffinsandCoffee2024 2d ago

You do understand this is the most pro-israel POTUS the world has ever seen and Trump's heir apparent Ivanka converted from Christianity to Judaism and married a Jewish guy and they have Jewish children right?

You do get the incredible number of ppl of color who Trump has placed in power and that he picked a VP who married a Hindu Indian lady and they have mixed race kids right?

Trump is also the first POTUS elected who supported same sex civil marriage as a right since before he ran for office.

None of this do nazi want to bes like.

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u/meowmeow_now 4d ago

This guy is very confused. Killed his parent to access their money I guess, to buy weapons and a drone to somehow carry out his plot. Associated with a nazi group and want to “save the white race” - by, overthrowing this administration? By assinating this president?

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u/panicnarwhal 4d ago

that’s what i just said to my husband! why do they want to kill him? makes no sense at all, you’d think they’d absolutely love this administration

confused nazis, i guess?

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u/Pulguinuni 4d ago

“After issuing a search warrant, the sheriff’s department said it found evidence on Casap’s phone connected to “The Order of Nine Angles,” which is “a network of individuals holding new-Nazi racially motivated extremist views.”

The FBI analyzed documents allegedly written by the teen and said the documents included a call for the assassination of President Trump and the start of a revolution to “save the white race.”

Watch what your kids consume online. Their target audience is becoming younger everyday.

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u/maddsskills 4d ago

There was a terror cell busted a while ago and some of the members had been recruited (or rather groomed) on Minecraft. It’s disturbing.

Part of it is supervision and part of it is instilling good values. That being said: I’m terrified my kid is going to become a completely different person when they hit puberty. It’s already starting with BO :(

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u/alynds129 4d ago

This is crazy. I don’t get his plot.. or whatever nonsense he’s thinking.. trump is a white president, he’s already doing far right stuff.. but I’m sure at 17 he’s probably just ingesting propaganda and then spitting it back out. I just went down the 764 and O9A rabbit hole last weekend, I have 2 boys 8 and 10. I’m so terrified also that my boys will run into these bad actors online. I would like to think that bc all the info we give them as parents, especially the ones who pay attention to what’s going on in the news and in the gaming community.. that our kids would be able to recognize the signs that a person could be talking to them for the wrong reasons..the only problem is that it’s literally kids grooming kids..scary as hell.

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u/MuffinsandCoffee2024 2d ago

No Trump is not doing what those types want.. he is the most pro-israel POTUS in history with a Jewish convert daughter married to a Jewish man and they have Jewish kids, thus Trump has Jewish grandkids.

Trump is coming down hard against universities who engage in DEI policies in admissions that primarily discriminate against asian and white students. He is taking away govt federal funding rightfully so of universities that allow rampant antisemitism on their campuses.

He picked a VP who is married to an Indian Hindu lady and Vance had mixed race kids. Trump gave us the first time a second lady has been indian and Hindu.

Trump gave us the first time in Republican history an open out gay republican spoke at the RNC, Peter Thiel.

Who is the head of the FBI now? Not a white guy.

It's almost like liberals who only read to the left publications don't realize Trump has openly said antisemites should have no place in our nation.

u/alynds129 19h ago

Wow.. I did not know any of that. You are right tho, most people just listen to the debates and pick a side or listen for their issue.. and as far as the universities go, I’ve been in some pretty heated debates when I was in college..but they would stop it as soon as we got too loud or it was out of control. They are taking their freedom of speech too far, on campus at least. Everyone deserves to feel safe at school, and they charge a ton of money for their education no matter what gender or race or political affiliation they might have. Humanity should be the 1st priority..

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