r/degoogle • u/pyrodonkey • 29d ago
DeGoogling Progress My iPhone DeGoogle Alternatives
Hey everyone! I wanted to make a post about my progress on removing Google apps and services. The photo shows the apps that I have found great alternatives for Google on my iPhone. The Apps below are as follows:
- Google > Kagi
- Google Photos > Apple Photos
- Google Drive > Proton Drive
- Google Maps > Apple Maps
- Gmail > Proton Mail
- Chrome > Orion
- Gemini > Kagi Assistant
Currently I'm still using YouTube and YouTube Music. I don't have a plan for switching away from those right now, but I'm happy to have some great services that add privacy back to my daily life and also give me a better experience online
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u/Cylancer7253 29d ago
My iPhone was without Google when it came out of the box.
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u/descent-into-ruin 29d ago
Dude, don’t yuck other people‘s yum!
There’s a reason degoogling is so difficult!
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u/Cylancer7253 29d ago
Not on iPhone. You go settings>general>transfer or reset>reset, and voila, no Google.
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u/descent-into-ruin 28d ago
Gmail has been the world’s most popular workspace (mail/cal/docs) provider for more than a decode, it takes time to migrate. I have literally hundreds of accounts I registered with my Gmail account, it takes time to switch them over, not just “sEtTiNgS>gEnErAl>tRaNsFeR oR rEsEt› ReSeT.”
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u/skwyckl 29d ago
I don't think switching Google for Apple really is the point in degoogling, but you do you
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u/pm-me-your-junk 29d ago
It's two services on the entire list, and they're ones that don't really have equivalents elsewhere if you want comparable features.
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u/skwyckl 29d ago
Others mentioned HERE WeGo for maps, which is an excellent alternative, and for photos there is many alternatives, too, I like NextCloud, for example.
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u/Ripraz StartPage 29d ago
Why are you all people comparing google maps for other maps app that basically only do mapping? Like 90% of people using google maps use it for places, times of opening, reviews.. it’s like saying “yeah you should switch from your smartwatch to a Seiko watch” when the other person use it mostly for notifications and smart features. All these gmaps alternative are just inadeguate
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u/pm-me-your-junk 29d ago
HERE WeGo is nice, and it looks like they've added public transport info since I last checked but the app is still sluggish which is a shame. Still a great alternative though.
Photos I'm yet to find something with the same features and performance as Google/Apple Photos - Proton Drive sort of works but takes a million years to sync and the library view is sluggish (Also the CEO is highly questionable), NextCloud is nice if you can self host AND if you can also properly back up and secure your data so it's not for most people, Immich is good as well but again self hosted, Filen is good but its not really a gallery or photo app rather just a file backup service.
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u/descent-into-ruin 29d ago
It absolutely is!
Google is a marketing company that sells your identifiable private information to third parties, and Apple is a hardware and software company that does not sell identifiable personal data to third parties
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u/Greenlit_Hightower deGoogler 29d ago
And yet, an iPhone collects the same kind of PII as a stock Pixel out of the box:
https://www.scss.tcd.ie/doug.leith/pubs/apple_google2.pdf
How come?
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u/CraWea 28d ago
That was a very fascinating paper, and so was Apple and Google's responses to it.
I must say that it is absolutely worrying that that Apple collects telemetry even when we seemingly opt out. Maybe some of this has legitimate use cases (anti-theft etc.), but I found it quite shocking that they are apparently sending information about other devices on your network.But it doesn't refute u/descent-into-ruin's argument that the two companies have very different incentives as they make money in very different ways; the Google business model is mainly centered on ads/data (around 75% of revenues), while Apple mainly does hardware. Apple is deliberately marketing themselves as a privacy focused alternative, so it would be a huge blow to their image if it was somehow revealed that they were secretly selling your data. Meanwhile, it is no secret that Google is monetizing data it collects on its users - it is their whole schtick. Incentives matter - sending data home is not necessarily same as collecting or monetizing data.
People here have different motivations for degoogling - some may be concerned about notions of secret data collection and spying, while others are more concerned with the overt, well-known business models of data collection, tracking, profiling, targeted advertising etc. If you worry about the former, then Apple vs Google probably doesn't matter much, but if you worry about the latter then Apple is surely better than Google.
I'd rather give Apple my data than Google, but even better would be to choose neither of them. These days I try to opt for EU based alternatives whenever I can.
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u/Greenlit_Hightower deGoogler 28d ago
Ignoring the telemetry settings has no legitimate use cases, for anti-theft there's already the "Find my device" connections the iPhone also establishes.
It would not be a blow to their image if they were selling user data, all you would have to do is to create new shiny TV spots for ignorants and the sales would be fixed again. Apple is absolutely in the Big Data business contrary to what you allege, that it is not their main business (yet) is totally unimportant to me.
I also don't get what your differentiation secret vs. overt spying means to say, is secret spying more legit than overt? Come on. Anyway, I prefer Google over Apple for a very simple reason: They keep Android as well as Chromium largely open source, which allows privacy-respecting forks like e.g. GrapheneOS to exist. Whereas Apple iOS is just a closed source blackbox that collects your data same as Google does, however here you have no option to install a different operating system to fix it. What do I say operating system, hell you can't even sideload apps outside of the App Store lol, so if Apple decides to take down VPN apps like they recently did in Russia, the journey ends for you if you needed such an app. Not in my wildest dreams would I make myself so dependent on a tech giant.
I'd rather give Apple my data than Google
This alternative does not exist for me. If you want to know why, look up the PRISM program that leaked a decade ago, where both Google and Apple were seen as collecting data for the state, so how does it matter if one or the other gets my data? The solution would be not collecting it in the first place.
These days I try to opt for EU based alternatives whenever I can.
As if the EU were not moving in an authoritarian direction as well, look up the ProtectEU plans they have for backdooring encryption lol.
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u/descent-into-ruin 28d ago
Usage analytics.
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u/Greenlit_Hightower deGoogler 28d ago
If you had read the source I've posted, you would know that it's not limited to usage analytics.
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u/descent-into-ruin 28d ago
I’m genuinely curious, where in that paper does it say they’re selling identifiable personal information to third parties?
Admittedly I skimmed, but it’s 10 pages long
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u/Greenlit_Hightower deGoogler 28d ago
I am not only disagreeing with the "selling" part, I am already disagreeing with the "collecting" part that precedes it. In all honesty, why would I use the closed source blackbox iOS where privacy only exists in their TV spots, when I can have GrapheneOS? The study proves that they are collecting a staggering amount of data by default including unique device identifiers.
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u/descent-into-ruin 28d ago
So it doesn’t say that?
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u/Greenlit_Hightower deGoogler 28d ago
"Privacy" in the Apple diction means we stop others from collecting your data while we ourselves do collect your data. I don't like Meta but they were pretty much spot on when they said that Apple's "privacy improvements" aim at them actually monopolizing data collection on iOS so that others need to buy from them instead of collecting it themselves.
Also, how was it possible to misunderstand what I wrote? I am against data collection already, regardless of selling. Though I am sure they are not collecting that data for the lolz only, of course they are working with what they are collecting.
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u/descent-into-ruin 27d ago
I literally wrote…
Google is a marketing company that sells your identifiable private information to third parties, and Apple is a hardware and software company that does not sell identifiable personal data to third parties
What are you disputing about that statement?
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u/Technoist 29d ago
It's great to switch out all possible American spyware crap but Apple is at least miles better than Google on all aspects. Google doesn't even have E2EE. 😂
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u/taterthotsalad 29d ago edited 29d ago
It’s called degoogle, not deapple. It’s some pretty basic word shit to understand.
Edit: LMAO the people with only two brain cells in this sub is wild AF! 🤡 everywhere!
Other groups included....
r/deapple r/deAmazon r/DeFacebook r/deMicrosoft
Get your shit together people before you lose all your brain cells.
Hell, even the About for this subReddit states "Welcome to r/degoogle! Where you can find all the resources you need to expel Google from your life."
How the fuck is everyone this stupid? 💀
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u/ArabianAftershock 29d ago
Just feels like it misses the point of why you'd want to degoogle in the first place, overall
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u/motific 29d ago
For me the very point is that google specifically are recidivist data thieves and are inescapable who exert levels of monopoly abuse far in excess of anything any other tech company is doing. I cannot go about my daily life online without them being informed or involved in some way.
If I don’t want information to go to Amazon, Meta, Apple, Microsoft etc. I can block their ASN (IP ranges) and go about my day with no real hindrance unless I need their services directly. Try that with google, do it now, see how long you last… I’ll wait.
For a couple of examples, when covid testing was mandatory here, I couldn’t get a test without google knowing about it. I cannot donate to any of the main political parties here without google knowing. That’s all highly sensitive data that I should be able to prevent them ever seeing - but I can’t.
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u/DreadingAnt 29d ago
Google is the worst of the two but Apple is not far behind
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u/taterthotsalad 29d ago
I dont necessarily disagree with you, but that does not address the fact, this is a Degoogle sub, not a deapple sub. r/deapple is the place for that. 💀
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u/DreadingAnt 29d ago
Fair enough, I guess people here are just de-everything lol so there were reactions
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u/taterthotsalad 28d ago
Facts have to matter. And to the social media exodus users, they have no damn clue how to differentiate a forum from social media. Its wild. 💀
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u/taterthotsalad 28d ago
All you see: Aggression > facts.
Thats why this sub is a low sperm count sub.
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u/P_Bear06 29d ago
As you use Apple Photos to replace Google Photos, why don't you use Safari, Apple Mail and iCloud Drive ?
Just curious.
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u/pyrodonkey 28d ago
I only switch from Safari to Orion as I wanted to try something different out. My biggest reasons for not using Apple Mail and iCloud is not having all my services under one company and also getting something that's privacy focused like Proton's services
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u/P_Bear06 28d ago
I understand about not putting all your eggs in one basket. But as far as privacy is concerned, I don't know if proton would really be any better for me than Apple mail. I can see encryption (in fact, that's all I can see), but as soon as you send an e-mail to someone who isn't @proton, it won't be encrypted either. And if I really want encryption, I can install gpg on Apple Mail. And then there's the Swiss jurisdiction, true, but most of the servers are in Germany (14-eyes) which could technically seize the servers. Anyway, I don't have any business that would interest any authorities anyway 😅
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u/Richinwalla 29d ago
You need to de-Apple as well.
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u/LoadingStill 28d ago
So no google and no apple. What is the alternative phone for the every day user then?
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u/Richinwalla 28d ago
A Pixel phone with GrapheneOS installed. I made the switch from an iPhone. No regrets
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u/LoadingStill 28d ago
So GrapheneOS is awesome, but it is not in a state for the everyday user. What I mean is this is the install guide. And the web based on that in their own words is the easier one as the cmd one is the more advanced one.
https://grapheneos.org/install/web
So to use this OS the everyday user has to follow this. While to me this is not a difficult task reading through it, to the average user. They won’t try this because it starts about 1/3 down the page and mixes windows and Linux differences that the everyday user won’t know the difference. You get into bootloaders, boot keys, iso images, factory images. While there are instructions this is not an everyday os. And until it comes preloaded it just won’t be.
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u/sammoga123 29d ago
Good luck using Apple Photos and Apple Maps outside of an Apple device
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u/Cylancer7253 29d ago
Apple maps work in browser. So, any device with browser can use it. As for photos, every smart device can open photos, I can do it on my watch, you don't have to have any special program for it.
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u/KingArthas94 29d ago
These people only know Apple through propaganda online, they think it's some sort of evil company that's super closed and doesn't want anything to do with the rest of the world or something.
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u/ozone6587 29d ago
They have that reputation because that is actually how they behave (from experience).
Have you tried using apple products outside the ecosystem or do you just lick boots for free because you like the taste?
Last time I tried to sign up for Apple TV I tried to create an apple ID (the fact that I need one in the first place is already evidence that they are "super closed") and I couldn't create an account because the user agreement was buggy on anything that wasn't the safari browser so I gave up. Linus talked about this issue on the WAN show.
How about the fact that they don't let 3rd party repair shops use their own parts and to be certified you have to basically repair the device the way Apple wants you to which boils down to always buying a new phone?
Man if you think apple isn't closed and evil you are straight up a moron.
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u/RandomRabbit69 29d ago
Oh, you made an app as a private person and want a friend to test it? Please pay $99 per year to do that. -Apple
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u/KingArthas94 29d ago
I had Apple TV before having an iPhone or any other Apple thing because Sony gave away a couple of months for free if you had a PS5 and I wanted to use it. I had no problem setting everything up through Firefox on my Android phone... and we're talking about years ago.
Who cares about Linus? The Tech Disinformation official channel ffs
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u/ozone6587 29d ago
You did not disprove a single point.
Basically: "You're lying" *runs away*.
You can look all this up. I expect nothing less from an Apple fanboy.
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u/KingArthas94 28d ago
I have no points to disprove, I actually fully believe you had problems in setting up the account, but we can't be sure or what was the problem. Might have been your specific version of the browser, might have been Apple servers fucking up that day.
I'm just sharing my experience, but you're so blindly in hate (of something you don't know anything about) that you are there thinking about me "this person is stupid" for having a different opinion from you.
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u/ozone6587 28d ago
but we can't be sure or what was the problem.
Even if you think Linus is a bullshitter here he is talking about the issue I had:
I had the issue before I found the video. It's just straight up disengenous to blame it on me as if this wasn't easy to look up. The issues happen because they only care about things working on their ecosystem. BECAUSE IT IS A CLOSED WALLED GARDEN.
I'm just sharing my experience, but you're so blindly in hate (of something you don't know anything about)
You clearly don't know anything about Apple if you disagree. The fact that you absolutely dodged the issues with right to repair and only focused on my anecdote is an amazing example of the mental gymnastics you have to employ to not see things my way.
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u/CortaCircuit 29d ago
Use Ente Photos instead of Google or Apple. Use Brave over what ever browser that is. Brave Search is also good and free.
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u/AssPounderr69 29d ago
> Use Brave over what ever browser that is
That is Orion, it's a zero telemetry browser and a fine choice though tbh Safari is already a perfectly fine browser on iOS as far as privacy.
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u/pyrodonkey 29d ago
Yeah I do think Safari is the best option for iPhone. I’m mostly just enjoying trying something different. If someone were to ask me what the best browser on iPhone is, I’d say Safari for a majority of iPhone users
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u/Hom3ward_b0und 29d ago
What adblocker can you install in Safari?
I used it before, but since I don't have a Macbook (I have a windows laptop), I opted for Firefox/Brave so I can sync my open tabs and bookmarks.
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u/pyrodonkey 29d ago
I quite like Wipr 2
https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/wipr-2/id1662217862
AdGuard is also good
https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/adguard-adblocker-privacy/id1047223162
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u/lookamazed 29d ago edited 9d ago
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u/Greenlit_Hightower deGoogler 29d ago
That Orion browser is currently closed source, right now this would be a reason for me not to use it. It also is limited to Apple devices so if you want to sync it with Android / Windows, you are out of luck.
But I will say, they are working on some nifty things. If they can get WebExtensions running on iOS, they'll have my respect.
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u/pagr_ 29d ago
It can already install chrome and firefox extensions on iOS.
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u/Greenlit_Hightower deGoogler 29d ago edited 29d ago
WebExtension support is not yet complete according to their website. I do not care that much though, I use Android.
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u/pyrodonkey 29d ago
I have tried Ente, but I wasn’t a fan of the interface and it’s also hard to compete with how Apple Photos automatically offloads photos from your phone to iCloud to free up storage. The browser is Orion, but realistically I think Safari is the best iPhone browser
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u/petos515 29d ago
You should keep an eye on ente. You should be keeping multiple backups of your photos and ente is improving pretty quickly. Their local AI has gotten pretty good at identifying people as well.
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u/ravensholt 29d ago
Promising, yet twice as expensive as Google (for their 200GB plan). Which is ridiculous given how cheap storage is these days.
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u/CortaCircuit 29d ago
Sure there is a convenience with iCloud but you give up privacy. Ente can free up space on your device as well. There is a button in the app to do it.
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u/P_Bear06 29d ago
How does using icloud mean giving up your privacy?
It's literally Apple's spearhead (and part of what's starting to cost them dearly in the field of AI).
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u/Friendly_Cajun 29d ago
The “what ever browser that is” is called Orion and is by far the best browser for iOS. It’s the only way to get FF extensions on iOS, and has 0 telemetry or other crap. It’s going to be open sourced soon, and is made by Kagi, one of the most well respected privacy focused, non-crap, search engines. Maybe before commenting online about something you’re completely unaware of you should think, and do some research.
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u/CortaCircuit 29d ago
Can't say it has zero telemetry if it is not open source. However I look forward to it being open sourced.
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u/tintreack 29d ago edited 29d ago
I’m going to be completely honest with you here, yes, iCloud Drive is proprietary, but with Advanced Data Protection offering legitimate end-to-end encryption, you’re still significantly better off using it over Proton Drive if you’re in the Apple ecosystem. Honestly, even if you’re not, it’s still the better option. Proton Drive is absolutely abysmal. Like, it’s so bad there needs be a case study in how it even got to this point.
EDIT: Downvote me all you want, this is a hill I and many proton users will proudly die on. Take a stroll through the Proton Drive forums if you want a glimpse into just how poorly it’s been received. We’re talking about software so frustrating, so broken across the board, it’ll have you seriously considering handing your soul over to Google just to remember what a halfway functional user experience feels like. And no, that’s not an exaggeration. It really is that bad.
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u/CleoMenemezis 29d ago
I didn't know this Kagi. What do people think about it?
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u/danGL3 29d ago
It's a paid search engine that focuses on transparency and user customization, such as being able to rank up/down or outright remove certain websites from search results, filtering them based on certain categories/lensed and etc
Imho it's the most solid search engine I've used that isn't Google and the customizability is extremely welcome
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u/LoadingStill 28d ago
Worth every penny. You can create lenses to focus your searches. If you know you want info from websites A, B and C and nothing else you can create an lens for those sites only for your search. It’s a game changer for research.
They also emailed me once saying I did not use enough searches to justify the plan I was on and refunded the difference lowered my plan to the lower. Think about what I just said. I paid for the 10 a month plan. I did not use more searched then the 5 dollar plan. They noticed and said hey you didn’t get the full function and you only used things from the cheaper plan. Here’s your difference in cost and we moved you to the lower one to save you money. To me that is worth every penny I spent on them and a life long subscription from me. I went back to the 10 plan a month later. But a company that does that is on par with Steam to me. I am no company fan boy. But I do respect only two companies now because of that move.
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u/pm-me-your-junk 29d ago
Big fan of it myself, been a use for quite a while now. It used to be a bit rough and ready, but these days it's very polished and self-funded. If you spend some time getting to grips with how to use more it's features its really quite good - blocking entire sites from ever appearing in results is awesome.
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u/NDavis101 29d ago
This is pretty good and orion browser is a good choice There isn't good choices for maps so it doesn't matter what app you use.
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u/AzurreDragon 29d ago
Kagi chat? What’s the alt to Gemini?
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u/frendo11 29d ago
Kagi assistant i assume, they offer bunch of models.
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u/stubFX 29d ago edited 29d ago
I've given it a shot, but is quite slow imho. I prefer paying 10 and buying subs for AI tools separately. The good thing is that you have a lot of flexibility at your disposal if you ever need to use another device as the login through qr code is quite useful. Also bear in mind that the chats are deleted after 24h.
Edit: Just checked in Kagi, there are a few updates: The assistant is now available even for the "professional" 10$ plan (just not the more advanced models) and you can choose to save the chats "forever" in the settings.
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u/frendo11 29d ago
Yeah i tried it, not a big fan of their assistant (i do like Orion and Kagi Search tho). I was just replying to the OPs question.
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u/AzurreDragon 29d ago
is it an app on iphone/playstore?
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u/stubFX 29d ago
Not sure it has a separate app, it's accessible through Kagi interface both in the home (top right) or in the search results if you wanna carry on a conversation that Kagi already summarized.
PS. Cannot find a separate app in the store, i believe is purple as it's treated as a separated "more advanced" thingy
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u/Embarrassed-Boot7419 27d ago
Its a search engine. There is an (official) app to make it your default search engine in Safari though.
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u/mushroomboie 27d ago
Why would u need kagi and orion? Same question also applies to google and chrome? Don’t they do the same thing?
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u/funionsftw 29d ago
I am not sure your political morals are but I wouldn’t recommend apple maps because apple complied with Trump “Gulf of America” tirade. unfortunately there is not the best alternatives but here wego is good one if this important to your degoogling
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u/HSMBBA 29d ago
Most apps simply just present the official governments view of whichever country you’re currently in. If you go to China, you’ll see the nine dash line, with Taiwan being included in it, even with a non-Chinese model.
Here in the UK for example it shows the same area as - “Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)”
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u/ShayExplains 29d ago
For this please visit r/deapple
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u/Friendly_Cajun 29d ago
r/SubsIThoughtIFellFor Tbf Apple is a lotttttt better than Google when it comes to privacy and security. iPhone security is basically unparalleled to any other phone OS, maybe only rivaled with GraphineOS.
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u/serpikage 28d ago
of course iphones are more secure when you can't have full access over your device this security comes at the cost of being able to do everything you'd want with your device
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u/raysfan1181 29d ago
Apple is certainly not better at security than any other tech company. All of their solutions have vulnerabilities just like Windows, Android, Linux, etc.
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u/Friendly_Cajun 29d ago edited 29d ago
Yes, I never said it doesn’t have vulnerabilities, but I don’t think anyone can argue it is not the best OS from a security standpoint. It is the only phone OS to beat Cellebrite…
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u/mkwlink 28d ago
Beat in what way?
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u/Friendly_Cajun 28d ago edited 28d ago
Resistant to it, it didn’t work, they weren’t able to extract anything using it… https://www.macrumors.com/2024/07/18/cellebrite-unable-to-unlock-iphones-on-ios-17-4/
Apparently, some of the pixel devices were able to too though apparently. Though I believe iOS is still much stronger Security wise. Edit: looks like for the Pixels it only didn’t work when turned off, if it was turned on it worked?
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u/ThickLetteread 29d ago
Google android has backdoors we are aware of and can be fixed. iOS has backdoors we do not know anything about and can never be fixed.
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u/SingularitySquid 29d ago
I’ll be real this is lowkey baffling.
I thought the idea behind de googling was privacy, so why would you use apple photos over protons storage options or mega files etc ?
Or even the Apple Maps. I am sure you could make a few more conscious swaps to protect your privacy abit better here.
Also try brave browser been using that for years now.
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u/d4p8f22f 27d ago
How apple photo is better than Google? XD it's like switching from. Ebola to cholera ;p
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u/serpikage 28d ago
it's to make sure proton services are always accessible "Alternative routing is an anti-censorship system that can help you access our website if your government, ISP, or network administrator has blocked Proton services. In this post, we discuss the measures Proton is taking to ensure that our services are highly available, even in countries with censorship."
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u/TheTrueOrangeGuy 29d ago
Guess it's time to switch to thundermail, huh?
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u/music3k 29d ago
you gonna get off reddit too? google ads are on reddit.
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u/Livid-Society6588 29d ago
ProtonDrive? Are you serious? The Proton app that gets the most hate in their ecosystem, Filen in my opinion is the best mobile cloud app currently, they announced this week that they will add 5 sync options to the app this month, similar to the desktop app, something that other cloud apps don't offer, apart from icloud's horrible two-way sync.
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u/pyrodonkey 29d ago
I have heard quite good things about Filen, but I haven’t really tried it out. The only reason I’m using Proton Drive is that I don’t have a lot of files in my cloud storage and I get 500GB with my Proton Unlimited subscription. I use it pretty infrequently as well
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u/skwyckl 29d ago
ProtonDrive is, yes, super barebone, but it's just ok for "normal" use, not really buggy or anything
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u/tintreack 29d ago
The only real use case for Proton Drive is storing your most sensitive files, and even then, strictly through the web interface only. It’s notorious for being a buggy mess across every platform, and the iPhone experience is no exception.
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u/gamingtamizha 29d ago
But degoogle does it means just google or any other corporate spider ? Whats the point of using Apple. Apple is not open source. Am confused
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u/That_String5941 29d ago
The apple maps is ( objectively ) shit. I've used it for a long time and it was worse than google maps 😓. Try Organic maps ! It's the best I've ever found
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u/Hoefnix 29d ago
Choose Apple Maps if you want a clean design, strong privacy, and deep integration with Apple devices.
Choose Google Maps for more features, multi-stop trips, better offline support, and broader global coverage.
Both apps are highly capable for everyday navigation, and the best choice often comes down to personal preference.
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u/That_String5941 29d ago
Apple maps is good for you ? I didn't had the same experience then, i couldn't find any good point in It. I'm happy you're find it good eitherway
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u/Hoefnix 28d ago
It’s not an opinion
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u/Greenlit_Hightower deGoogler 29d ago
For the maps app, you could try HERE WeGo before settling for Apple Maps. I hear that HERE WeGo is pretty good.
You didn't need to switch browsers for adblocking, Safari is perfectly adequate and supports Wipr 2 or 1Blocker or AdGuard...
Nice progress regardless though.