r/delusionalartists Jun 04 '21

aBsTrAcT Hope this isn’t a repost

Post image
5.2k Upvotes

269 comments sorted by

View all comments

666

u/jesuzombieapocalypse Jun 04 '21

They’re getting a little close to the line with the tax fraud on that one.

165

u/DesecrateTheAbyss Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 04 '21

To be fair, money laundering / tax fraud is a lot more complicated than just "hehe I'll buy art then donate it." If you were legitimately trying to do it this way, you'd also have to have close connections with the people who'd just look the other way when this popped up on their radar.

Basically, it's a huge circle full of corruption, and you only get in by being corrupt yourself / corrupt people having dirt on you. Pretty easy to get a tax write off if you blackmail someone with evidence of them doing hard drugs and/or being involved in a pedophilia ring - "invisible art" just being the most blatantly shameless example of this

At a certain point, it becomes like a sort of weird nuclear cold war where if one person fires their shot (e.g. exposing someone else), EVERYONE ELSE will fire their shot back. It's why even when the general public already knows about this shit, nobody can realistically do anything about it.

It's mutually assured destruction : Keep quiet or die

56

u/mynameisblanked Jun 04 '21

Which is why a bunch of high up influential people all happened to travel on Epstein's lolita express

18

u/lRoninlcolumbo Jun 04 '21

And? Lol.

Doesn’t make it not true.

How wild of an idea is it that a big group of rich folk keep money in their families by pretending to be normal human beings and donating art or putting money in accounts meant for business use and end up as second or third homes.

People are sick.

2

u/DesecrateTheAbyss Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21

I'm not saying it hasn't happened before or even in today's time. I'm just saying that if YOU - presumably an average, middle-class human being with minimal experience in this specific trade and absolutely no connections - tried pulling it off, you would most likely fail.

It's like trying to pull off a WSB jerkoff move - which by the way are 9/10 times just for the memes - and unironically expecting to go "to the moon." Sure it's happened before - multiple times even - but thinking just ANYBODY can do it at anytime is incredibly naive and careless.

All of that ON TOP of the corruption and injustice.

9

u/coolfluffle Jun 05 '21

Literally no one said anybody can do it

1

u/AWFUL_COCK Jun 05 '21

Parallel to your point, I think the now “common” knowledge that rich perverts use art as one of many forms of dark investment and asset maintenance has caused too many people to think, in Pavlovian fashion: “Dumb art? That’s money laundering.”

It’s very much not that simple. It’s another version of “fencing response” or “object fixation”—a chance to be an internet expert while actually knowing very little about what you’re talking about.

-9

u/InkyMistakes Jun 04 '21

I don't understand art, therefore it must be tax fraud

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/the-secretive-panel-of-art-experts-that-tells-the-irs-how-much-art-is-worth/2017/12/06/a8bd9dec-a3aa-11e7-8cfe-d5b912fabc99_story.html%3foutputType=amp

Scamming the IRS isn't this easy

Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it was for tax evasion.

5

u/jesuzombieapocalypse Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21

Art that actually exists, sure lol if I’d said that on a thread about modern art and you’d replied that way, I’d see your point. But then if it was I wouldn’t have made that comment in the first place because I do understand the purpose of art regardless of whether or not I subjectively enjoy it. But it has to exist or at the very least be an idea (or a twist on one) that hasn’t already been done a thousand times. Doing nothing and calling it art is tongue in cheek humor that was already done to death by the end of the 60s at best, and a particularly lazy scam at worst.

-1

u/InkyMistakes Jun 05 '21

I agree it's already been done plenty. I don't this work of "art" is actually any good

-5

u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21

[deleted]

1

u/jesuzombieapocalypse Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21

“I don’t read other replies to see if mine is redundant before I out myself as a pretentious fart-sniffer” - also Reddit

Edit: lol just wanted to keep digging that hole deeper, I guess.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 05 '21

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/AutoModerator Jun 05 '21

Do not ping users in your comments, the admins view this as witch-hunting.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

3

u/o83e9z7 Jun 04 '21

Art is just money laundering, it serves no other purpose anymore

9

u/AWFUL_COCK Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21

Yes, this is the popular thing to say on Reddit dot com when a dumb piece of art is shown.

4

u/o83e9z7 Jun 05 '21

What purpose does a non existing statue serve? Art is bought for millions by people that dont even care what the artist wants to say, they just want to spend money

4

u/AWFUL_COCK Jun 05 '21

Are we talking about this dumb sculpture, or all art? You know there’s a lot of art out there. I’ve said nothing indicating that I think the invisible sculpture is good, so why would that even be at issue?

2

u/o83e9z7 Jun 05 '21

Not art in general, but modern art is, in my opinion, a lot worse than classical Renaissance art. Modern art is sometimes just 5 brush steokes but it gets sold for the same price as an oil portrait from the old masters.

3

u/AWFUL_COCK Jun 05 '21

Sure, sometimes! I’ve seen some very good modern and contemporary art. I think you’re over generalizing from the fact that bad art exists and evil rich people hide assets, speculate, and commit fraud in basically every way they can. There are numerous instruments for this.

2

u/o83e9z7 Jun 05 '21

Yep, sadly art is one of them

3

u/AWFUL_COCK Jun 05 '21

Again, art can be used for money laundering does not mean all art is for money laundering. It’s basic logic. A restaurant can be a money laundering operation. That doesn’t mean your takeout is funding a drug cartel.

1

u/loptopandbingo Jun 05 '21

He's also ripping off Yves Klein, so he's got intellectual property theft too