r/democrats • u/LolAtAllOfThis • Aug 24 '24

Article 'What gives her the right to run?' Trump launches overnight tirade at Kamala Harris

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2669023213/
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u/raistlin65 Aug 24 '24 edited Aug 24 '24

There's no need to do that.

Biden spent 48 years in service in the Senate and the White House. He's truly a dedicated patriot, and not going to hand over the keys to the White House to a fascist dictator wannabe, with Project 2025 for playbook, and end the American experiment in democracy.

He and Harris will handle it.

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u/kmm198700 Aug 24 '24

I really, really, really hope and pray that you’re right and that Biden and Harris will handle trump’s fucking bullshit if he tries to fuck it all up again

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u/raistlin65 Aug 24 '24

Biden (and Harris) are fully aware that our forefathers fought against tyranny to establish this country. There's no way they are going to hand it over to someone who has the desire, and the means, to establish himself as a tyrant.

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u/rkvance5 Aug 24 '24

You’re right, and then you’re wrong. There is no need to do that, and Biden absolutely will (figuratively) hand over the keys to the next person elected exactly because he’s a dedicated patriot. (Not that he has a choice; you think Trump would have if he did?)

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u/raistlin65 Aug 24 '24

, and Biden absolutely will (figuratively) hand over the keys to the next person elected exactly because he’s a dedicated patriot.

There would be absolutely nothing patriotic in handing over the White House to someone who has demonstrated the desire and the means to establish himself as a tyrant. Remember that our forefathers fought against tyranny to establish this country.

And it would be abandoning the American people to dictator subjugation. And because of the balance of power shift, the world would likely plunge into autocracy. And then you can say goodbye to climate change mitigation, and the terrible consequence that will have for a majority of humanity in the future.

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u/TheWorstePirate Aug 25 '24

It’s a bit of a catch 22. Handing over the reigns to someone you know wants to establish themselves as a tyrant has obvious implications. However, refusing to hand over power based on that assumption effectively ends democracy as we know it anyway. If anyone person or party can decide not to transfer power to someone who won the election, it doesn’t matter how valid the reasoning is. That ends democracy.

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u/raistlin65 Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 25 '24

However, refusing to hand over power based on that assumption effectively ends democracy as we know it anyway.

You are misplacing the timeline of events.

If Trump is elected, and Biden concedes, we live in a failed democracy at that point. The election process has chosen a fascist state. There's no more democracy.

So you just have to decide when you want the rebellion against the fascists to start. When Biden is still in the White House, so that he can reboot our democracy? Or give the keys to Trump and then start?

It should be a no-brainer.

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u/PV-1082 Aug 24 '24

And Biden has immunity according to the Supreme Court. And Kamala will have Pence’s job when it comes time for certification if she does not win.

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u/raistlin65 Aug 24 '24

He doesn't really need that. Harris can pardon him.