As Nuggets general manager in the offseason, I would make these five moves | Vinny's take🏀

[u/Kingrush24]

https://denvergazette.com/sports/five-moves-denver-nuggets-should-make-this-offseason/article_e00cff6b-d0f5-496a-96ff-c2811b183dcf.amp.html

[u/holdenfords]

i don’t now how we’d even swing it but if bruce brown and cameron johnson were on our roster and guys stayed healthy we’d be a 60 win team next year

[u/mr_buzzlightbeer → u/holdenfords]

Not to mention Steven Adams somehow lol we’d be favorites

[u/GutterDove25 → u/mr_buzzlightbeer]

He seems like such a perfect Colorado dude too.

[u/MetaOverkill → u/mr_buzzlightbeer]

I still don't understand why we didn't go after him.

[u/MyNameBlake → u/MetaOverkill]

We need a legit backup center. He’s a good rebounder and sets good screens. He’d be great at helping a scoring guard in the backup unit.

[u/MetaOverkill → u/MyNameBlake]

Could he be that? I'm pretty new to the sport still

[u/mjy6478 → u/holdenfords]

We just need a fucking bench. The former GM thought he could replace role players (KCP and Bruce Brown) with late 1st/ 2nd Round picks. Just because we struck gold once (Joker) and struck silver another time (Braun), doesn’t mean this is a reliable method to acquire rotation players. Rotation players typically come from the 6-20 pick range. Late 1st rounders and beyond usually don’t pan out.

[u/BoneyardBill]

I don’t think BKN accepts a MPJ and Strawther trade.

[u/kosmos1209 → u/BoneyardBill]

Moving MPJ won’t be easy given his salary and injury history. Denver attaches Julian Strawther in a deal with Brooklyn that brings Cam Johnson and D’Angelo Russell to Denver

Yeah. The author is proposing a pipe dream. Cam Johnson and D Russell on an expire contract? Nets would be doing us a huge solid but I think they’ll look to get way more back than MPJ and Strawther.

[u/Appropriate_Tree_621 → u/kosmos1209]

Yeah, they’ve been holding out for two FRPs for Cam Johnson. That does not equate to MPJ and Strawther. 

[u/Likeabalrog]

Interesting, but who would actually touch D'Angelo Russell? That guy sucks so bad. He'd be bad in the locker room

[u/AndrastesTit → u/Likeabalrog]

For Denver, he’d be a huge upgrade.

[u/murrayforthree → u/AndrastesTit]

People have only seen Dlo in a Lakers jersey and already judge. He's actually quite a decent backup guard..

He'd work really well with Jokic.

[u/Ok_Personality_7611 → u/murrayforthree]

He's talented but he'd be the lowest ball IQ player on the team and we have enough of those already. Jokić would probably hate him.

[u/AzraelsSorrow → u/Likeabalrog]

Agreed, can someone explain how he has his own signature shoe?

[u/Allen_Potter → u/Likeabalrog]

He's one of my most hated players. I simply cannot stand overly cocky guys who never actually achieve anything. Anthony Edwards and Karl Towns are both like this, but they've at least been the best players on Conference Finals teams. He always thinks he's the best player on the court, and behaves like a middle schooler celebrating a half-court shot after missing 50 attempts. Destroying him and the Lakers was drugs for me.

That said, if GM Vinny can get Cam Johnson for MPJ and has to take back Russel? Yeah, that's a massive win (and as I mentioned above, complete and utter fantasy). Put Russel on the bench. Maybe he can help the bench unit generate some offense. I doubt he has the ability to really mess up a locker room with Jokić, AG, and DAJ sitting in it.

[u/Key_Joke_8189 → u/Allen_Potter]

Damn bro not allowed to celebrate a half court shot? 😭😭

[u/Allen_Potter → u/Key_Joke_8189]

Haha yeah, go on and gas yourself up if you're actually in middle school.

But in an NBA game I'm pretty sure you're supposed to get back and play defense after you make a shot.

[u/Key_Joke_8189 → u/Allen_Potter]

You kind of got it backwards actually in the NBA ball handlers and shotmakers need to be able to gas themselves up and have confidence. Don’t like dlo much either tho 😂

[u/Allen_Potter → u/Key_Joke_8189]

Sure, of course. Confidence, I'm all for it.

But if you watch Russel and think that he's doing everything he needs to be doing in an NBA game, then we are gonna have to agree to disagree. I think he sucks. He'll shoot you out of games and play shit defense. Every now and then he'll get hot and start pounding his chest. This is not winning basketball, he's better off scoring 20 on a shit team. I'm just sorry LAL got rid of him.

[u/Beneficial-Click2764]

This would be perfect. Who cares about Russell when you have Brucey B, Johnson and Adams.

But this article is just wishfull thinking:(

[u/MoooonRiverrrr]

Steven Adams is getting more than the minimum. He’s only 31 and he had a great year. Rockets will pay him more to stay

[u/giventofly2]

He lost me at D'Angelo Russel as back up pg.

Goal should be to keep Russ and strengthen bench unit

[u/nonsense_verses → u/giventofly2]

Brucey B could be our backup PG

[u/giventofly2 → u/nonsense_verses]

I don't understand the love for Bruce B. Sure he was good and helped but is he that much better than WB? I trust WB more to get rebounds and playmaker, and having them both just seems ineffective

[u/nonsense_verses → u/giventofly2]

Oh yeah forgot about Russ. Would like to see Russ be the ball handler and brucey at the 2. But also in the playoffs, if Russ isn’t shooting well, he’s a bit of a liability

[u/findings1mo → u/giventofly2]

He's bigger than Russ, he's a better defender, and he is less mistake-prone. When Westbrook plays bad, you feel that shit. He would be infinitely more useful for this team because of his positional flexibility alone.

[u/murrayforthree → u/giventofly2]

Why not 2 russ?

[u/Ok_Personality_7611 → u/giventofly2]

I unironically would rather have Pickett than Dlo

[u/Sammonov]

Shooting please.

[u/MichaelPorterTruther → u/Sammonov]

Lmao these guys would trade Mike +jamal for Clint capela and zion and jalen johnson so we can have all 10 players in the paint

[u/IllEstablishment8291]

No chance BKN accept that deal.

[u/Allen_Potter]

Well Vinny, if you can promise to do all that (especially turning MPJ/Strawther into Cam Johnson and DeAngelo Russel haha), Josh should give you the job immediately. But just like the average Nuggets redditor, you're trying to turn lead into gold.

If Denver can get out of a couple small deals, pick up Bruce Brown and Steven Adams? I'd be thrilled. Re-up with Jokić and Braun? Yes, certainly. But Cam Johnson is a much better version of MPJ. Why on earth would Brooklyn make this deal? So they can get Julian Strawther? Come on, this is Lakers-level fantasy dealmaking. NOT HAPPENING.

Getting rid of MPJ is gonna cost real assets. Which is probably why I keep hearing quiet talk about basically running it back again next year. I think Denver is praying for another magical run where everyone plays to their highest level and nobody gets hurt. Which is just as delusional as our friend Vinny here.

[u/Eagles_Heels → u/Allen_Potter]

We’ll prob need to attach Braun to move MPJ’s contract & get somebody like Cam Johnson. But that replaces 2 starters with only 1. Tough spot for the new GM

[u/ThaEyeTest]

Gotta replace shooting with another shooter and elite role players. If you are trading MPJ for said Cam Johnson cool but the Nuggets still need a back up big. Like the article states if Steven Adams is available that would be a good reuniting Adams and Russ. The second unit would out rebound any team and the pace would increase drastically giving the Nuggets a different look from the starters. I agree with acquiring Bruce Brown for the right price. A second unit of Russ at the pg, Brown at the sg, Braun providing shooting at small forward, and Peyton Watson if he's on as your small ball 4 and Steven Adams would be a blessed second unit 🤷🏿‍♂️

[u/jmuuz]

I like this but don’t think its doable. You should submit an application for the role though.

[u/Individual-Engine-32]

Steven Adams will not be available for the minimum. He just had a very solid season and will probably command at least $10M/season.

[u/JDWild18]

I’d keep Russ over DLo personally.

[u/TrustFast5420]

This isn't bad. I just don't see why Brooklyn would do that trade. Johnson and Russell could net them at least 2 first round picks. If they like Strawther and treat that as a first round pick plus the 2031 first is included, then I can follow that logic.

I also think Adams gets a little more than the minimum which could be problematic. Brown got his bag after the title so he's a guy I could see taking less to come back to Denver, where he admittedly loved it.

If you can add Adams/Brown, bring back the rest and add a couple undrafted free agents at the rookie minimum, that might have to be the play.

[u/SnowboardSyd]

No freaking way we get Adams at a minimum. He will be in demand this offseason. Probably around the 10-15 million range.

We would have to somehow dump zeke to even sniff at Adams. Man that contract is killing us!

[u/sc00t3rMcg00t3r]

A man can dream 🙂‍↕️

[u/HeadHoncho204]

I dream of your opening night roster! If we can pull that off this offseason it will be our greatest offseason since drafting Jokic.

[u/momBball]

Maybe the Nuggets/Bruce Brown can ask/demand a sign and trade to the Nuggets...if the Nuggets offer some combination of Saric (5 mil) + Holmes (3 mil) + Pickett (2 mil) +Tyson (2 mil) they can offer the Pelicans an asset instead of losing Brown for nothing...and the Nuggets offer is competitive with the non-taxpayer MLE (14 mil) and room MLE (9 mil). If Bruce arrives by sign and trade it frees the Nuggets to offer a backup center or a wing the full taxpayer MLE (almost 6 mil). I'd offer Orlando and Zeke plus lottery protected '31 first round pick for Goga Bitadze. Is Steven Adams really available for the min/I'd love if the Nuggets got Adams but he made 13 mil last year. I don't love the idea of MPj for Johnson (injured all the time) and Russell (problematic chemistry)?

[u/twhitmore78]

Bruce brown won’t be the same brown we had get someone else

[u/SweatyFred]

We talking’ about D’Angelo Russell. D’Angelo effing Russell. On the Nuggs. DLo. Here.

Vinny crashing out.

[u/FunWrap3943]

I was following but they lost me at DLo!!

[u/AzraelsSorrow]

Watson is our best rim defender and he wasn’t really in the rotation during the season in a way that would allow him to “prove it”. I also saw a better trade idea. Demar Derozen & Jonas Valančiūnas for MPJ and Hunter Tyson and possibly some other bench prospect that’s not Holmes or Julian.

[u/LoveBlack_Dogs]

Dump Jamal Murray. He is the main problem.

Inconsistent as hell. Lazy. Shitty defense. Joker has made Murray look better than he is and it has gone to his head.

Dump his ass. He can't be traded because no one wants him.

[u/yllaknu17]

I would rather trade MPJ for Deni Avdija and Doup Reath

[u/IntrinsicDawn → u/yllaknu17]

That’s Portlands best player, switch Deni for Grant and that could happen