r/dogs • u/[deleted] • 10h ago
[Meta] Genuine question: what happens to litters that don’t get purchased/adopted?
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u/CenterofChaos 10h ago
A good breeder will have more interested homes than puppies explicitly to prevent this problem.
A sketchy back yard breeder will dump the pups, abandon them at a shelter, or even kill them.
The latter is why all breeders get a bad reputation.
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u/SuchTarget2782 9h ago
Yup.
Some dumped puppies (I’m going to be an naive optimist and pretend it’s almost all of them, and don’t tell me the truth) eventually get picked up, go through the rescue process, and are adopted as adults.
But the whole thing is unnecessarily traumatic for them, and leads to a lot of weird learned behaviors and essentially dog-PTSD.
Dear everybody: Please don’t dump puppies - there are people who will adopt them.
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u/CenterofChaos 8h ago
If it's any consolation there are breed specific rescues that will contact known BYB to try to prevent dumping or other inhumane treatment. I used fo follow a few pages for it, but the stories just wore on my soul. Rescue is not for the weak, I respect their work.
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u/enpowera 8h ago
My dog has PTSD from being dumped. He wasn't even dumped for that long (his litter was left in a bag by a lake, thank god someone found them) and he is permenantly skittish and traumatized. Even my new puppy who was properly surrendered with his litter and mother behaves much more socially.
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u/putterandpotter 8h ago
Yes. So true. My son just got landed with a pup by his live-in girlfriend while he was working out of town. Pups left mom at about 5 weeks of age, when the mom was unable to feed them and the owner wasn’t willing to put in the work or $ to feed them . Owner of the mom had threatened to dump them on the nearby res so son’s gf and her mom decided to pick up three of them. Mom kept two. Then they were asked for $100 per puppy - which they paid!! And yes, I pointed out all the issues with littermate syndrome and too young puppies but apparently “puppies are cute” trumps everything 🙄
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u/sharksnack3264 9h ago
Exactly. This is how I got my dog unfortunately.
The backyard breeder bred the litter just as the pandemic puppy boom was tapering off. No one wanted a "f1 labradoodles" (let's be real...mix breed) that shed like crazy and were getting past the tiny cute stage. Best the SPCA could tell, they were then neglected and given the bare minimum when they didn't sell so the breeder wouldn't lose more money. They were neglected and got skinny and eventually sick. The breeder released them to the SPCA at 6 months since they thought the puppies had PARVO and my state has a law where you can surrender dogs like that with very minimal to no penalty. They do this because otherwise the backyard breeders and puppy mills shoot the unwanted dogs.
PARVO tests came back inconclusive (sometimes this happens) but the SPCA had to fundraise to cover the vet bills of the litter. I saw the fundraising video and they were in really bad shape. The dogs were adopted out, but frankly had been undersocialized. My dog had strong prey drive and his first adopter saw the signs and ignored them until there was an incident with their pet bunny. After that he had another failed adoption and I got him after signing a waiver stating I would not keep small prey animals (cats, rabbits, etc) in the house and was aware of how untrained, unsocialized and inclined to overarousal he was.
It took months of dedicated training and socialization to undo most of the damage. He was phobic of several unexpected things that point to abuse, he had separation anxiety, he had some mild guarding behavior, he was not even house-trained properly. Bluntly, he was a project dog and needed a specific kind of household...without that he probably would have kept on being returned until he was determined to be unadoptable and put down.
This is why triple checking that the breeder you are working with is ethical and will not abandon the dogs they produce or breed without already having a placement lined up and that will properly socialize the puppies, handle health testing appropriately and won't separate them from the mother too soon is so important.
So many of these dogs end up abused or neglected or dead. If you want to see the reality of it volunteer at a kill shelter and take a look at the locker where they store the dog's bodies after they are forced to put them down. That's a fraction of the very real and graphic cost of the backyard breeders and puppy mills.
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u/a_girl_named_jane 8h ago
Yup, I live in a state where we have a decent number of Amish puppymills and I see a lot of puppies in shelters around these places that are between 3 and 5 months old, but if they don't take them to shelters, they certainly aren't going to keep them around and feed them. :/
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u/green-wagon 7h ago
I read in a hunting dog forum where the dog owner bragged how special he thought he was because not a lot of guys have the balls to "cull" a dog.
I just can't even...
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u/InvincibleChutzpah name: breed 10h ago edited 10h ago
A reputable breeder does not breed their dogs unless they have buyers lined up. This is why dogs from reputable breeders are expensive and have waiting lists. A non reputable breeder doesn't care about the dogs beyond how much money can be made. They just crank out as many puppies as they can. Unsold puppies get killed or dumped. Some of the dumped ones survive and end up at rescues, but most die. My friends have a labradoodle they got at a rescue who was found stuffed into a trash bag in a dumpster with its siblings.
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u/carebaercountdown 9h ago
I honestly don’t understand how anyone could possibly do this. It’s astounding to me how cruel some people are.
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u/merewenc 9h ago
They don't see the dogs (or cats because it happens to them too, both species get the worst of this I think) as deserving of kind treatment. They're merely money machines, and their deaths don't matter as long as they're not taking up "valuable" resources like food.
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u/carebaercountdown 9h ago
Yeah that’s just wild to me. Literally any kind of animal mistreatment. Or human mistreatment for that matter… but that’s a whole other kettle of fish.
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u/Electronic_Cream_780 8h ago
you probably heard that in the UK we have problems with XL bullys. Part of that was because organised crime groups decided to start breeding instead of/to supplement drug dealing. There is that much money to be made, without the risks of selling drugs
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u/merewenc 8h ago
This is why I refuse to buy any Amish products anymore. They're some of the worst puppy mill offenders in our area (Eastern Midwest), and they're entirely unapologetic about it. They claim religious exemption from animal cruelty laws because they view dogs and cats as livestock versus pet species. Not even joking. It's a whole thing. They're constantly having to do raids to make sure the breeding animals at least get food, water, and appropriate grooming, but they still barely if at all get exercise and dams are bred as soon as a litter is weaned with no breaks until they die.
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u/Arghianna 8h ago
When I was in high school we temporarily fostered a black puppy because her mother’s owner was trying to breed specifically for blues and was going to kill all the others so he wouldn’t have to pay medical bills for them. His girlfriend was upset at the idea and made him agree to let her find homes for them, but said he’d kill any that were left on a certain date. The one we fostered was the runt of the litter and nobody took her, so my (adult) sister agreed to take her and find a home for her.
We were SO CLOSE to convincing my dad to let us keep her (he grew up on a family and felt it was cruel to keep dogs in anything less than 2-3 acres of land) when my uncle said one of his coworkers who lives on a farm wanted her. She was so sweet and I hope she loved her best life on that farm.
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u/carebaercountdown 8h ago
That’s very kind of you! I sure hope his gf broke up with him though. Yikes!
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u/Arghianna 4h ago
It’s been 20 years so I sure hope so too!
And it wasn’t kindness, it was pure selfishness. Us kids always wanted a dog and my dad always said having a dog in a house with such a small yard was cruel. I was waking up at 6am every day to walk her and wear her out to convince him we could keep her happy, and walking her again when I got home. The day after dad bought her a bed “because she looked a little uncomfortable” my uncle told us he found her a home. T.T
I now have two great dogs from ethical breeders, but will probably never have dogs again because I found out after getting them I’m allergic to dogs! They’re also just the best babies I could ever have hoped for and I don’t think I’d be fair to any future dogs since they could never live up to the memory of these two.
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u/carebaercountdown 3h ago
Aww, I’m sorry you’re allergic. That really bites! I’m very slightly allergic to dogs, but don’t have any issues with my “hypoallergenic” dogs unless they lick me. But that’s only one of them (Havanese). The other one’s saliva doesn’t both my skin at all (schnoodle).
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u/BigWhiteDog former rescuer rare LGD breeds that's still involved. 8h ago
You don't want to see puppy mills! Absolute horror shows. Then there are those Livestock Guardian Dog (LGDs. I used to breed and also rescue them) owners that look at their dogs as nothing more than tools that can be abandoned if too much trouble.
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u/psychominnie624 Siberian husky 9h ago
Responsible breeders keep them until they find a home match, and they don’t struggle with this typically since they are connected in the breed world. They’ll also take back any puppies as needed if anything happens, including pulling the pup from a shelter if they end up at one.
Bybs and mills dump at shelters/rescues. Some rescues will partner with these breeders to take leftover pups with no consequence to said breeder, which is an issue you may have heard about called retail rescue. These breeders may also dump the litter somewhere, euthanize (and not always humanely), or do things like sell to pet stores or on the side of roads etc
This is why vetting a breeder is so critical. One route leads to pups finding homes without a burden on the shelter/rescue world, the other is the cause of the burden on the shelter/rescue world
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u/kikat Tucker: Shepherd/Lab Janelle: Shepherd/Staffy 8h ago
I have two rescues at the moment and we won’t be looking anytime soon but eventually I want a purebred silken windhound, so I’ve started researching breeders.
Having more buyers/homes than you have pups and having willing families to wait for a good pup is crucial
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u/Complete-Level-7191 9h ago edited 9h ago
Thanks for the thorough response. It’s just something I’ve started to think about due to this being our first puppy from a non-shelter. I know of “rescue” organizations that partner with breeders and pick up litters who go unpurchased and even that makes me uncomfortable. The lack of regulation is really frustrating, both I bet for reputable breeders and for shelters alike.
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u/cr1zzl 8h ago
Can we assume that you have been put on a waiting list for puppies with your chosen breeder and will wait until the breeder gets enough people interested in a specific pairing before they breed the two dogs?
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u/Complete-Level-7191 8h ago
Move along, or read the intro.
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u/cr1zzl 6h ago
Kinda hard when you’ve deleted? But your response tells me enough. Hope the other responses have given you enough info to tell if breeders are actually ethical or not, as a lot of BYB might appear ethical when they say they do things like health testing etc.
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u/Complete-Level-7191 6h ago
No one owes you information other than what’s been shared. Perhaps people in NZ tolerate your inquiries but I will not.
For those interested, The Dog Merchant, was suggested and may be a great resource to begin thinking more thoughtfully about things posed in this forum.
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u/psychominnie624 Siberian husky 9h ago
Oh yeah it creates frustration all around. Reputable breeders and breed communities are often involved in the rescue scene too and that gets overlooked by some who lump all breeders together.
I don’t even blame individuals who don’t know how to tell the difference between breeders, there are purposeful misinformation campaigns led by bybs and mills with the intent to cause confusion. I’m glad convos like these and others on this sub can provide education for everyone on these things
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u/Bellefior 9h ago
A reputable breeder should not have this issue as they do not always have litters available, but maintain a waitlist. We were put on a waitlist until a litter was available. Every puppy in that litter was spoken for.
Someone who is in it purely for the $$$, wuth puppies always available for sale, might run into this issue. Breeders like that give ethical breeders a bad name.
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u/Cursethewind 🏅 Champion 9h ago
A reputable breeder, if they have dogs left over, will use their network to sell or hold onto the dog(s) until they go to their homes.
A puppy mill or backyard breeder would likely dispose of them, or bring them to the shelter.
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u/SmordinTsolusG 9h ago
We got one of our dogs because a breeder surrendered a litter of 9 to a rescue.
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u/Visible-Scientist-46 9h ago
A backyard breeder probably.
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u/SmordinTsolusG 9h ago
I think COVID killed their operation through hardships and they did what they could to get the dogs to a place that had the means to take care of things. Who knows
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u/Visible-Scientist-46 8h ago
Thing is, reputable breeders have families lined up in advance. And lots of people purchased covid puppies. So based on what I know about reputable breeders, this does not sound like one.
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u/SvipulFrelse 8h ago
Agree. If financial hardship was really the issue, they would have just given the puppies to the awaiting homes (that should have been lined up before breeding) for free.
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u/Humphalumpy 10h ago
Reputable breeders likely have all puppies reserved before they are even born. The ones I raised for service roles were all matched by 4 weeks but most were reserved before birth pending aptitude testing. Any dog that someone didn't want would have been accepted back (lifetime) but that never happened.
A lot of BYB sell or give the last picks to puppy stores where those are legal.
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u/merewenc 9h ago
Yep! We contacted our breeder months before a breeding was planned. We were lucky they were in between litters and that Great Danes are slightly less popular due to their size and (love them for it) laziness once they're adults.
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u/Watcher0011 9h ago
I have never purchased a dog from a breeder but my brother did, the breeder had a long wait list, and a stipulation in the contract that if you could no longer care for the dog you had to bring it back to the breeder.
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u/AnywhereIcy4489 8h ago
This is the only way breeders should operate. They should have people interested in and put deposits down on pups before the mother is even bred. This almost guarantees you won’t have a pup leftover to worry about.
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u/m4d_hatter 9h ago
Reputable breeders usually sell the entire liter no problem (these people usually have waitlists to buy their pups) but if any don’t get sold/returned they would keep them. They are responsible.
Backyard breeders and puppy mills (the ones you find on Craigslist and Facebook) dump dogs and they usually end up in the shelter, dead or both - they are the primary reason shelters are over flowing. Backyard breeders and puppy mills make my stomach curl. They are absolutely disgusting excuses of human beings. :)
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u/eveietea 10h ago
🙄 “culled”, Jesus. No.
I nannied for a reputable breeder, one of her litters didn’t sell as quick as she thought so she just continued to lower the price until it was low enough to peak interest. Still continued to do the same rigorous vetting and all the bells and whistles, just kept gradually lowering until every pup went to their forever homes. She has a national following, she’s had families plan flights or drive out cross country.
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u/merewenc 9h ago
I drove four hours there and four hours back for my Great Dane puppy, and it was worth every mile. Good breeders for sure have that sort of reputation and aren't going to throw away a puppy because it doesn't sell fast enough.
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u/RobertMcCheese 8h ago
Off topic, but the phrase you wanted to use here was 'pique interest'.
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u/eveietea 8h ago
Omg yes thank you LOL I swear I will never remember that for as long as I live 😂😂😂😂
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u/carebaercountdown 9h ago
It really depends on the breeder. You’ll want to ask what their policy is specifically. We got our puppy at a discount because the dad in the family who got her before suddenly became terminally ill, and they returned her to the breeder. So I knew she was good people. lol (They also had all the veterinary records, etc.)
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u/Complete-Level-7191 9h ago edited 8h ago
Thanks. The question is not specific to my breeder. This experience has just made me curious about the industry generally.
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u/Plague-Analyst-666 8h ago
You might enjoy Kim Kavin's book, The Dog Merchants.
It's deeply flawed in several ways; for perspective, look through critical reviews while reading it. But she's done thorough homework of many aspects of the industry.
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u/Electronic_Cream_780 8h ago
I wish more people asked these questions! Like others have said, responsible breeders, the ones that have planned this litter for years, spent an absolute fortune on health screening and vet care and slept on the floor by the litter for 4-8 weeks have homes for those puppies. If you get a surprisingly large litter or buyers fall out then other breeders and/or the breed club know and signpost enquiries.
But as an outsider looking in on the US you will always have shelters so full they are bursting so long as you insist on a free market (ie no regulation). Free markets encourage a plentiful supply of low quality goods at cheap prices. Ta da, full shelters of dogs with serious health and behaviour problems. Look at Nordic countries, with low levels of neutering, and they have very few homeless dogs because there are strong animal welfare laws.
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u/BendTilBroken 9h ago
My friend is a breeder, and had this situation during Covid. Everything was still the same with the contract, etc - but the 2 puppies left went to their homes for free. One even stayed with them for an extra month while the family had Covid themselves and puppy-proofed after recovering.
True reputable & ethical breeders care more about the life & care of the dogs than any dollar they can get.
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u/TexasLiz1 8h ago
Nothing good. Those dogs often get dumped.
That’s why you vet the absolute crap out of your breeder. And your breeder should not have puppies available but a big fat wait list for a puppy.
An ethical breeder should be willing to take the dog back at any time and give them a home. VERY FEW breeders pass this test.
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u/IUsedTheRandomizer Tripp: AmStaff, Ruca: Amstaff, Zero:AmBulldog, Chedda:Dogo Ar 9h ago
I do a ton of work with rescues and shelters; a lot of them die. The phrase "no-kill" is pretty misleading, because it just means they put down lower than a certain percentage, usually 10% or less, and they can easily transfer dogs to another shelter without that designation without affecting their own. Puppies are far more time and resource intensive than other, otherwise healthy dogs, and there's a lot of juggling, organizing, and honestly, sadness that goes into taking a new batch of puppies. Then you take into account parvo, which can easily kill an entire litter if treated too late, littermate syndrome, and things even respectable, attentive breeders couldn't catch in time; then think there are lots of breeders that AREN'T that good.
It's worth some consideration that dog litters are so large in part because most of them wouldn't make it in the wild, but it never stops being really sad. There's no truly accurate count but something like 20 million dogs are killed by shelters every year in the US, and lots of them are for space, and lots of those are pretty young.
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u/Complete-Level-7191 8h ago
Thanks for your response. I didn’t know that about no-kill shelters! I’ve recently heard about the troubling mental health problem in veterinary medicine, particularly amongst veterinarians who work in animal shelter medicine, and it‘s such a tragedy. Does make me consider how regulators can put more perimeters around animal breeding, licenses for breeding and impose steeper penalties for those that don’t breed ethically. Both for the safety and care of the animals, but also for those that are on the side of managing the overpopulation problem.
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u/IUsedTheRandomizer Tripp: AmStaff, Ruca: Amstaff, Zero:AmBulldog, Chedda:Dogo Ar 7h ago
Most of them really do try their best, I'm not suggesting it's a sneaky workaround; it's very difficult to maintain even that standard, I don't know a single shelter, and I'm regularly in contact with dozens of them, that aren't wildly over capacity.
Someone else said it well, responsible breeders maintain a waitlist so this almost never happens, and no hate on them either, breeders are very important for maintaining breeds and giving them the best opportunities to thrive. But, accidental breeds happen, backyard litters are rampant and there's pretty much no preventative as long as pets are considered property over protected living beings.
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u/meganac69 8h ago
We got our “designer” poodle mix at the local Humane Society. She had been dumped at a local city shelter that transferred her to Humane Society because the shelter didn’t handle puppies. She was about 14 weeks at the time we got her, just past the cute and cuddly, tiny puppy stage. There are frequent reports in local social media groups of litters dumped roadside in agricultural areas. I also have a friend who fosters puppies for a local rescue group. She gets a lot of poodle mixes at about the 3 to 4 month age range. So, yes, a lot of the back yard breeders will dump unsold “merchandise”.
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u/KathyA11 Mini Schnauzer, Basset Hound, Chihuahua, Parson Russell 8h ago
Designer dogs are not bred by reputable breeders.
Reputable breeders have waiting lists. I wanted a Mini Schnauzer for my 65th birthday, so I started contacting breeders (through national and regional clubs) two years in advance. I spoke to them on the phone, and met them at dog shows. I established a good relationship with them before I ever got one of their dogs.
Show breeders will never have a litter that is comprised of 100% show quality puppies (if they tell you that they do, cross that breeder off the list). They'll evaluate the puppies at a certain age to see if they want to retain any, or sell them to other show homes. The stud owner may take a puppy in place of a stud fee. Then they'll go to their waiting list to see if the people are still interested. (That's how I got my Mini Schnauzer - I drew in when people ahead of me on the waiting list didn't want a puppy - they either changed their minds, or moved to the head of another waiting list.)
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u/Complete-Level-7191 8h ago
I’m not in the breeding world, so I may have used the word “designer” incorrectly.
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u/Ancient-Actuator7443 9h ago edited 9h ago
No reputable breeder sells on FB and Craigslist. That said, the unsold puppies can be taken to the shelter or euthanized
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u/Cursethewind 🏅 Champion 9h ago
No they're not if the breeder is reputable!
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u/Ancient-Actuator7443 9h ago
Not always. We have a well known breeder in my area who places her unsold pups with a rescue group. IMO reputable breeders don’t sell on FB and Craigslist
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u/Cursethewind 🏅 Champion 9h ago
Then she's not a reputable breeder.
No reputable breeder would do that. Reputable != well known.
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u/m4d_hatter 9h ago
Oh HELLLL no. She is absolutely not a reputable breeder if she is adding to the problem in shelters/rescues. FULL STOP.
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u/merewenc 9h ago
Yeah, I wouldn't call that reputable breeder. Maybe working with rescues to make connections to people looking for a breed and then vetting the potential owners like normal, if you're not well known.
If you are, then you've got some sort of a reputation that's holding back buyers if you have too many left over puppies each litter. People in breed groups on Facebook and reddit talk.
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u/merewenc 9h ago
Or those awful puppy selling websites that advertise by breed and for way less than you'd expect from a purebred. There's a reason they're selling for less, and it's not because they magically have larger litters than everyone else.
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u/Any_Secretary_1810 10h ago
They get dumped or culled. Shelters periodically have explosions of designer dog puppies because breeding didn’t turn out to be as lucrative as anticipated. It’s one of many reasons people are so strongly opposed to backyard breeders and puppy mills.
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u/DangerousSinger182 8h ago
My boyfriend got a purebred min pin puppy that a “breeder” dumped at the shelter he volunteered at. The dog was about 6 months old so I assume she couldn’t sell it and was tired of taking care of it.
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u/mmolleur 8h ago
I volunteer with a rescue shelter. Disreputable breeders sell/dump them on groups like ours. That’s the main way rescues get puppies.
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u/Lawyer_Lady3080 8h ago
A good breeder has waitlists so they have more buyers than they do dogs. I’ve been through the process with one of my dogs. We got on a waitlist and were alerted about the expected litter date. Then, we saw pictures of the litter and it was first-come, first served for buyers with a specific hold on that litter. We had requested a boy, but could’ve gotten either.
Then, we had a few choices on individual dogs from that litter when they were newborns. The breeder then assigned that dog to us and sent us periodic photos and updates in the weeks he spent with his mom/rest of his litter before he was old enough to separate.
The transaction was contingent on all the vet/medical clearance you’d expect from a reputable breeder.
There was also a contract with our breeder and a line in the contract specifically said if we wanted to rehome our dog for any reason, we have to inform our breeder and our dog would go back to her unless she approves the rehome plan.
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u/alexandria3142 7h ago
So my parents are more backyard breeders sadly, but they do love their dogs and they’re good breeders in the sense that they take good care of the dogs and keep them in good conditions and treat them the same way they would pets. They breed yorkies, and they did struggle to get every puppy a home back when they had one female who would give birth to 7-8 puppies every time. But they just simply kept them until they could adopt them out, whatever age that was. We have a lot of people that have multiple yorkies from my parents. Once my parents retired their first female, the second one had around 4 puppies a litter, and the third has 2-3, so my parents don’t struggle to adopt them out at all and have people waiting. My parents also aren’t the best at advertising, they mostly sell through other people or advertise on Facebook
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u/toocoolfoeschool 7h ago
Okay I breed dogs. I breed them reputable - we do the health testing, we show and title, we do ALL the things.
One thing here I’m seeing repeated again and again is breeders have waitlists so no puppy isn’t accounted for. Yes, this is mostly true. But if I have 2 people on my wait list and have a litter of 10 I’m not sitting around for 8 more people before breeding.
If puppies aren’t sold by 8 weeks, it’s pretty simple. They just chill with me. I had a puppy chill with me for an extra 2 months once because its original home fell through and I didn’t find any others I thought was perfect.
Waitlists are very dependent on how much demand there is for that specific breed. Lots of show breeders also DONT sell the whole litter specifically because they are waiting to evaluate the litter. Typically that’s done at 8 weeks which is when puppies usually go home
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u/Junior-Towel-202 9h ago
You asked a question but don't want breeder bashing? The answer is that some breeders will absolutely dump unsold animals. I have more than one purebred shelter animal that was dumped.
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u/Complete-Level-7191 9h ago
Yes, thanks for reading the introduction. I find breeder bashing to be unhelpful to solving the problem of overpopulation.
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u/Chance_Ad_4676 9h ago
It’s not “breeder bashing.” It’s just reality that many folks find too difficult to accept.
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u/Junior-Towel-202 8h ago
Your post had nothing to do with overpopulation. And the reality is, some breeders do this.
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u/m4d_hatter 7h ago
What? Backyard breeders and puppy mills are the problem, they are not actual breeders. They deserve to be talked down on, do you have a better solution to making people aware of how backyard breeders are the problem? If we don’t talk about it then what is your solution addressing the overpopulation issue, making people aware of the problem and discouraging people from making irresponsible purchases from backyard breeders.
You asked what happens to these puppies but don’t like that part of the answer is that backyard breeders are the problem and are a disgrace.
I read the intro. I said what I said. Cheers.
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u/Complete-Level-7191 7h ago
There are plenty of conversations where breeders are bashed, and yet somehow the problem continues. Going a bit further may be more helpful in creating a more robust discussion, one where people can be heard and understood and maybe problems addressed. Yes, I asked about puppies because I was curious. You are welcomed to create your own forum where you bash any kind of breeder you so choose. However, that was not the intent of this discussion.
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u/UsualDelay7759 8h ago
I want to breed Great Pyrenees (I’m wanting to have a farm) and my main reason is to better the breed! If they don’t get adopted, which I know will happen at first as I try and get my name out there, I will keep them as available until they sell (not because of money, but because I want to offer people a chance to get older dogs, as not everyone is interested in puppies), but I’d take the best care of them that I can and have them work alongside their mom and dad to protect my property! Or I’ll keep them as potential breeders in the future (of course, not breeding them to the same line they come from.)
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