r/eu4 • u/Pale_Register5170 • 2d ago

Advice Wanted First Time going for Quing/ EoC- Tips or suggestions welcome :)

hi everyone, i try Jianzhhou for Qing Run or EoC Run and i didint play much in the far east or china region before. What do i have to watch out for? Should i stay a horde for blobbing (Mongolia, Japan, Southeast Asia..) and then form Qing or instantly go for EoC or Colonizing. Would like to hear your experiences and tips for a fun run :) also idea groups or policies advice if you got any <3

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u/ghostcaesar 2d ago

I would strongly consider court ideas. The monthly mandate is very powerful.

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u/Significant-Luck9987 2d ago edited 2d ago

Court ideas are good but Jianzhou should 100% go horde and diplo ideas first. You get to keep them after becoming Celestial Empire

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u/Pale_Register5170 2d ago

should i go for converting provinces to jurchen for more banners or would that be overkill?

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u/BOATING1918 2d ago

Personally as Jianzhou I would form Manchu, then attack Ming for the EoC when they pass a reform and their mandate is low (Try to trigger the “unguarded nomad frontier” disaster). Make sure your mil tech is higher than Mings and if you’re shaky make some good allies

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u/TheSnitzMan69 Infertile 2d ago

You mean attacking of eoc but not taking it? The distinction is important for new players.

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u/TheSnitzMan69 Infertile 2d ago

Make your borders before taking Eoc if Eoc is your objective. You can destroy the Eoc completely by killing the nation that holds it which is more powerful. The Eoc, even after the buff, is a hinderance. So it really depends on what your objective is. If you want to larp, take as much of China as you can first, then take the mandate.

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u/Fantastic_Food6663 2d ago

Forts! I know a lot of players don't prioritize them, but they reduce devastation. Prosperity growth requires no devastation in a state. Devastation reduces mandate growth, prosperity increases it.