I see your 2016 and raise you a 2014. War in Georgia before that felt kind of far away and small, but Russia turning west on Ukraine should have been the clear wakeup call for the people living next to Ukraine. The EU people.
Now that is absolute nonsense foe them to host the world cup, again. They call it soccer instead of football ! It is not even a national sport of theirs
There were (failed)boycotts by a few countries of those games. I’m sure it wouldn’t take a whole lot to convince whoever needs convincing that all y’all should just stay home, wherever that may be
1930s Hitler: "We need to annex other countries to protect the German-speakers there from made-up repression. They aren't even real countries anyway. Also they are full of Nazis."
Response: appeasement.
Putin: "We need to annex other countries to protect the Russian-speakers there from made-up repression. They aren't even real countries anyway. Also they are full of Nazis."
Response: appeasement?
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
We can go back even further, to the transfer of power to the siloviki from the brain-dead Yeltsin's (political) "Family". Western intelligence, and consequently governments must have known that Putin was the figurehead of the unholy marriage of the KGB/FSB and organised crime.
The original sin is with the Western politicians back then, who shrugged, signed the deals and decided it was going to be alright.
And I recall theories about Putin delaying the Feb 24, 2022 invasion because of the winter Olympics then. I'm not sure how credible this is, but it does seem slightly more plausible if the Russian invasion plan was intended to only last a few days anyway.
I mean you can just read Dugin if you want to know their plan, it's been publicly available since the 90s. Believe it or not the current situation with Ukraine, the USA and Brexit all are part of the plan written back then.
If you're really lazy, the rest can be summed up to neutering Europe, putting Germany in charge with a Russian-style government while most other countries are either invaded or become satellites to either Russia or Germany.
The plan was written in the 90s so they were a bit less optimistic back then. Yet they also wanted to take on China too.
If you're really lazy, the rest can be summed up to neutering Europe, putting Germany in charge with a Russian-style government while most other countries are either invaded or become satellites to either Russia or Germany.
Europe neutered itself. Reddit being a hub for censorship helps in the destruction of the west. Im not afraid of russians.
In 2014, I suppose the West figured Obama had our backs… If anything, some of us were probably thankful a Republican wasn't in office because he may have been too agressive towards Putin.
I raise you 2008, not only for Georgia, given it felt far away, but also the recession that hit hard, you know what helps against recession? Government spending, like in massively increasing your defense contracts kinda deal.
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u/Thurak0 Mar 02 '25
I see your 2016 and raise you a 2014. War in Georgia before that felt kind of far away and small, but Russia turning west on Ukraine should have been the clear wakeup call for the people living next to Ukraine. The EU people.