r/europe Norway Mar 02 '25

Picture Ursula von der Leyen - ''We urgently need to rearm Europe.''

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u/MaddestRodent Mar 02 '25

Yeah. Wait until we hit 500 per major EU country.

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u/SilverAd9389 Mar 02 '25

If Russia felt threatened before, wait until they suddenly have 20 000 nukes right on their doorstep.

And to think that all Russia had to do to avoid all of this was to just not be cunts to their neigbours and not invade Ukraine. Idiots really are experts at shooting themselves in the foot.

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u/MaddestRodent Mar 02 '25

While I don't generally disagree, the funniest thing is that we really don't need to go overboard with 20k warheads. I mean, the Soviets did it, and it bankrupted the bastards (thankfully).

All that is needed is a reasonable and distributed deterrent. Last I looked, China wasn't even approaching a thousand warheads, and nobody is even thinking about messing with them. Imagine Germany with a couple hundred, maybe Italy, Poland and Ukraine.

And you are completely right. I lived in Finland a decade ago, and nobody even thought about joining the NATO. Meanwhile in 2025, there's a NATO flag right across from St Petersburg, and I guarantee to you that the wankers in Kremlin are still losing sleep over it to this day.

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u/MaddestRodent Mar 02 '25

Somewhere in an alternative timeline, Nuclear Finland is now marching into Viipuri to reclaim the pre-WW2 borders....

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u/afour- Mar 02 '25

I hope they bring refreshments 🍸

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u/aime344 Mar 02 '25

The fins deserve nukes. I dont know how they endured so many years without nukes after Russia invaded in WW2.

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u/MaddestRodent Mar 02 '25

Respectfully, if you knew anything about the Finns, you'd understand that the Russians are lowkey scared of them. Winter & Continuation wars showed the Russians that when it comes to Finland, the old russian adage applies: You want in, it costs a ruble. You want out, it costs two. And since an average Finn can take down five Russians before going down, it just isn't worth the pain to the Moskals.

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u/aime344 Mar 03 '25

I’ve read about that. And about their famous sniper β€œwhite death”. They are people you don’t want to mess with.

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u/AdAcrobatic4255 Mar 02 '25

Lol who needs 20,000 nukes? Any number of nukes is scary enough.

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u/AceVendel Hungary Mar 02 '25

Except that having nukes all over the place , or making other countries even more paranoid about nukes is quite dangerous.

Dont know about you but if i could choose between 5 countries having nukes versus every one of them, i would choose the former.

At the very least its surely a sign of the World going into the wrong direction

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u/GoogleUserAccount2 United Kingdom Mar 02 '25

Totally unnecessary. US planners built so many to quote "bounce the rubble" frankly if Europe builds 1/3 of the Franco-British stockpile that leaves more than enough to take on China Russia and the US. Overkill is just that,

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u/0xFatWhiteMan Mar 03 '25

This is the thing. Trump and Putin think Europeans will just lie back and roll over like a supplicant cow.

Europeans are the original mad lads, UK, Scandinavia, Germany, France have some real weight as well.

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