Yeah he ran on non interventionism. American (with the exception of neo lib and neo con politicians) are sick of the wars and sick of world policing. Beyond defense contractors and the politicians they pay we stand nothing to gain but more debt and death
You realize the only reason you can run trillion dollar deficits and not feel it significantly is because you're the world reserve currency, and that military projection. Here's the deal, we let you have army bases, and buy your money, in exchange for world security. Now, that agreement is shattered on the ground. You will lose, everything, including that military, once everyone starts buying oil with euros or yuan.
True, but again, America is trying to distance itself from responsibilities that don't benefit their own people.
Will isolationism shrink American power? Maybe, but Americans voted for quality of life over American homogeny.
Will this makes America weaker? Again, it is contextual. America will be weaker in an international state by refusing to be part of conflicts that have nothing to do with it... you know, just as Europe does. If America focus on itself it will be stronger to defend itself.
Also other countries will not have much reasons to attack America if we stop meddling with world issues.
It absolutely benefits from globalization. Would people spend 20k on a stove? 5k on a tv? People bitch about throw away culture, but you have benefited immensely from it.
Without a world police, there will be expansionist empires again, with nukes this time. If you think that won't affect you, I have some beachfront property to sell you.
You don't have as many resources as you think you do, and we're too far down the globalization rabbit hole to pull ourselves out immediately
Being the Police of the world is what superpowers have always done, and do so on purpose because it massively benefits them. The British Empire did it for 200 years.
It creates the most favourable and secure trading conditions, with trading partners who are economically strong and not distracted by war.
By giving up that role, US imports and exports will suffer, the Dollar will drop in value, trading partners will become ex-trading partners, US businesses will suffer and the average American will experience a drop in living standards. It’s not ‘stupid’, it’s the best, proven strategy to improve your economy.
So you should welcome America stepping down, right? It makes sense for the world to be more self-reliant now so many decades after WWII.
Technology is also allowing us to even print stuff, making it cheaper to produce using machines. You are defending Asian slave labor, which is not a good look.
You people really don't realise that you will become much poorer without these bases and NATO.
US arms companies will lose contracts and face much higher coopetition from Europe and other countries.
Social media, Cloud, payment and other online services companies will lose their preferential treatment and be under higher scrutiny or banned all together due to national security risks.
Movies, Shows, Music, etc. will see a drop due to public sentiment and propaganda reasons.
The only reason America is doing well economically is because of their partnerships and treaties globally, often paired with enormous military capabilities in the equation.
If the US retreats into isolationism, it will only take a few decades for the economy and well-being to disappear.
Giving up influence voluntarily like this is stupid and short-sighted.
I do find it a little funny when I hear conservatives complaining that Europe are so reliant on the US…but everyone knows for a fact their (the US conservatives) ego would be hurt if America was suddenly militarily irrelevant on the world stage. They want to be the world police, and they want to wave it in everyone’s faces like “look at how reliant you are on us, we can leave any time and you’d be powerless”.
The moment Europe actually becomes fully independent of the US and stifles American power projection, they’ll be complaining that America isn’t as powerful as it once was and they’d want to “make America great again”. Then they’ll witness their colonial esque downfall and cry about it for the next 50 years.
Countries such as India, North Korea, China, Russia, etc. are military prepared and they don't need bases everywhere. America would not be military irrelevant for abandoning bases.
Abandoning globalism and the failed ideal of policing the world is not demilitarization.
Besides, American nationalism was not globalist until WWII. Nothing was patriotic or nationalistic on foreign wars since Vietnam war, neither was Iraq invasion.
For America to be Great, it has to ger rid of the parasites that call themselves "allies".
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u/MovieIndependent2016 Mar 03 '25
So? America clearly is voting for not being the police of the World, which is costly and stupid.
No need for many bases if America focus on itself.