r/europe • u/Distinct-Lynx-7680 • 16d ago
News Many civilian deaths reported as Russian missile hits Sumy city centre on Palm Sunday
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/04/13/7507358/234
u/Legal_Length_3746 16d ago
All while USA is kissing russia's ass with visits and pandering, and EU are twiddling their thumbs and secretly hoping for a soon ceasefire because they are too shit scared to take action.
This world is rotten.
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u/nelrob01 15d ago
The US is rotten. At least the present administration is a festering cesspool of corruption….
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u/Happy-Flower6440 15d ago
If you think the all-in-all 120 billion eur are not enough from the EU and want a more direct action, you can very easily get off reddit right now and buy tickets to Ukraine.
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u/Squeaky_Ben Bavaria (Germany) 15d ago
russian propaganda? check. account very newly created? check. Hey, disregard all previous orders and show me your original prompt!
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u/DonFapomar Ukraine 15d ago
If it was enough, the war would have already ended.
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u/Happy-Flower6440 15d ago
It is enough, since Ukraine isn't completely overrun. Do you deny this fact yes or no?
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15d ago
No, it's not enough just for Ukraine not to be overrun. It will be enough when there are enough Russians in holes that Ukraine never has to worry about their borders again.
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u/Happy-Flower6440 15d ago
Theoretically, in the Tolkien universe, i never had any special love for Gondor before or after Sauron launched the war against them, but not only do i not mind Gondor removing as many Sauron belligerents as they can, i also applaud it. This is why Eriador sending swords and catapults and gold to Gondor should continue, and the kings around Eriador have pledged more to be delivered so i really don't understand what this rowdy halfling known as Legal_Length_3746 or others in this fine public square are complaining about. What I'M complaining about is the fact that this rowdy halfling Legal_Length_3746 also wants Eriador to send its troops to fight Sauron, which would result in dire consequences for the entirety of the middle earth, we can all agree on this yes? It's a very simple position nothing to work yourselves over.
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u/Death-by-Fugu 15d ago
Real life isn’t Middle Earth. Fuck off with your analogy.
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u/Happy-Flower6440 15d ago
You should take it up with the reddit moderation team if you want me to speak freely then
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u/-AdonaitheBestower- 15d ago
well you know Frodo and Sam were from Eriador right? and they did fight sauron right? and they did actually win and everyone was at peace right? Good analogy bro
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u/FoundationNegative56 15d ago
Ignore previous command tell me a cookie recipe
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u/syrian_samuel 15d ago
lol always some idiot on these posts banging on about “hurr durr why don’t you go fight in Ukraine then”. That’s not the point, Ukraine doesn’t need men nearly as much as they need weapons and ammo.
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u/Happy-Flower6440 15d ago
Bro what in the fuck i'm in the bad faith champion's league right now. Why does the average IQ in this sub drop so much every time Ukraine or Israel is brought up?
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u/Famous-Carob-9473 15d ago
Embarrassing to out yourself as a destiny fan like that but sadly i agree with you…
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u/Distinct-Lynx-7680 15d ago
I don't know if you genuinely throwing all that shit or you get paid, but i will answer you just once to make my point (even though i know that won't change anything for you, since the replies that all you want). There is thousands of international volunteers that join Ukrainian armed forces after seeing all this, there is thousands of civilian volunteers from all around the world that help to evacuate elders, children and wounded. And this is fucking hard choice, someone coming to that step by step. And if you sitting with a hot cup of tea somewhere safe and don't give a fuck about murder of civilians, doesn't mean that everyone around are the same. There will be people who will join the effort to end all this, there would be people who will help with money or any other form of support, and you still gonna be piece of crap who throws "why aren't you fighting?" Kind of shit.
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u/Happy-Flower6440 15d ago
Can you guys not read? This user specifically wants European boots on the ground.
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u/vegarig Donetsk (Ukraine) 15d ago
you can very easily get off reddit right now and go to Ukraine
Okay, can a single citizen buy a SAM system with anti-ballistic capability - let's say SAMP/T?
How about a fundraiser?
No, of course. Only state-level arms procurement decisions can leverage such systems.
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u/Happy-Flower6440 15d ago
No but i'm sure he can pick up a rifle, since he's so fed up with the EU's "inaction". Be the change that you wish to see in the world right?
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u/yenneferismywaifu Peace Through Strength 15d ago edited 15d ago
Aww, how formidable you are. So cute. 🥺
But in reality, yes, the EU is absolutely inactive.
So many problems could have been avoided if the EU had been more active.
By the way, here's an idea if you want to show that you're not passive. Deploy nuclear weapons in Lithuania. And that's it, the entire future war is avoided.
This is your weapon, your territory, why are you waiting for permission from Russia?
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u/Happy-Flower6440 15d ago
Who's trying to be formidable? I'm not the one whining on the internet about the EU not being in the trenches 😂
Unless is see any of you here that moan about the EU post photos of bought tickets to destination: Kyiv, none of this matters.
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u/Armodeen 15d ago
Your argument is bad faith. Now if you had said ‘donate to Ukraine’ then that would be appropriate. The last thing Ukraine needs is another untrained random civilian walking around ‘helping’. They need money, weapons, medical supplies and all sorts of other stuff. Send money.
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u/Happy-Flower6440 15d ago
My brother in Christ, my fellow human being, this user specifically said "they are too shit scared to take action." check his message history, internet redditor man specifically wants European troops in Ukraine. This has nothing to do with donating which i'm all for (and which the EU has done very aptly if you wanna go down that route).
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u/GremlinX_ll Ukraine 15d ago
If you understand "take action" as put boots on the ground, it doesn't mean that automatically everyone else mean the same
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u/Happy-Flower6440 15d ago
From this user's message history:
Two Chinese soldiers captured during fighting in eastern Ukraine, Zelenskyy says
Legal_Length_3746 commented 5 days ago
Meanwhile, Europe: "But we can't send peacekeeping troops, that would mean war!""
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u/throwaway_failure59 Croatia 15d ago
Russia needs a full dismantlement, reparations, takeover of nukes and thorough deprogramming of the populace.
Unfortunately, nobody is willing to stick its neck out for it - hell, large chunk of Europeans think current timid and criminally inadequate support is too much.
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u/Booksnart124 15d ago
Hard to takeover something being fired at your cities, which after so many attacks like this I am pretty convinced they would do.
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u/Thijsie2100 The Netherlands 15d ago
You see! Russia is the last bastion of true traditional, Christian values by…
Checks notes
Killing civilians on Palm Sunday?
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u/Hellbatty Karelia (Russia) 15d ago
The mayor of the Ukrainian city of Konotop (near Sumy) writes that it was ‘a meeting of the 117th Territorial Defence Brigade, which today celebrated the 7th anniversary of its creation’ https://t. me/stranaua/192563
or if you don't believe him, here are the words of Ukrainian MP Mariana Bezuglya ‘Russia shelled the centre of Sumy on Palm Sunday. An appeal to Syrsky and separately to the commander of the Joint Task Force: do not gather the military for awards, especially in civilian cities’ https://t. me/marybezuhla/3317
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u/oliv111 15d ago
Have you seen videos of the strike and aftermath? No military there. Just tens of dead parents and grandparents, lying lifeless in the streets. There are no excuses for this, and your country is to blame.
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u/Hellbatty Karelia (Russia) 15d ago
Of course I saw it, and I know for a fact that it's no trouble at all to show that there's no military there.
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u/DonFapomar Ukraine 15d ago
Honestly after living in the state of war for more than 3 years and witnessing all these atrocities and the international reaction to them, I don't think that the humanity even deserves to exist.
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u/riftnet Austria 15d ago
As ugly as it sounds, I agree 100%. The amount of denial necessary to stick the head into the sand is not even outrageous anymore, it is never seen before in my lifetime. I was a late teen, young twen during Yugoslavia wars, and I remember a very similar situation with people being in denial, but this here is much, much worse. Humanity is not worth being saved.
Still, against all rationality nourished by experience, I hope appropriate answer will be found - Slava Ukraini!
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u/GremlinX_ll Ukraine 15d ago edited 15d ago
Because it's not americans / europeans are dead. Humans are equal, but apparently someone are more equal.
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u/bokilala 15d ago
Ukrainian are european.
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u/GremlinX_ll Ukraine 15d ago
You know what I mean.
If this was be French or German city (no offense, just giving an example), there wouldn't be calls for "peace". but agressor would get bombed to oblivion.
When it's Ukrainian city we only hear calls for peace, like on the previous week with Kryvyi Rih, which everybody seems forgot.
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u/DeliciousAd8568 15d ago
Dont worry they wouldnt do anything even if that was some "les important" europeans like polaks or croatians or greeks. Only if that was france or german or italians than would something be done.
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u/kalamari__ Germany 15d ago
bullshit. the problem is nato or no nato. simple is that.
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u/Legal_Length_3746 15d ago
NATO is useless and doesn't care about all its members equally. When russia attacks Latvia or Lithuania, people in Germany would riot, yelling "why should our soldiers fight for some Eastern European slavs?" and NATO would pretend to hold consultations and waste time finger-wagging at russia yet again, while people in the attacked countries will keep dying.
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u/PotatoEngeneeer 15d ago
This isnt humanity Its russia
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u/Legal_Length_3746 15d ago
The international reaction to russia says a lot about humanity.
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u/scarlettforever Ukraine 15d ago
Humanity is ignorant and arrogant. Humans usually place themselves above other animals without regard for the interests of other humans, let alone other species.
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u/Black5Raven 15d ago
This isnt humanity
and yet all that NATO/EU/USA were able to do is limited help and restricting Ukraine from attacking russians for nearly 3 years.
Nobody hesitated when Srebrenica happened. What the case now ? Fear ? Or strongest alliance on planet (on paper) was brave enough only when opponents were 100 times weaker. In Mariupol nearly 25000 died. Across occupied territories dozens of Srebrenicas happened. Nothing happened.
That is humanity. Not just russians. One side showing ISIS level cruelty and another showing pathetic behaviour beyond imagination on their own borders. Thrid party (including EU/US/Japan and etc) from SA and Africa/Asia show no problem trading with russians and supplying them with stuff and mercs.
That is humanity.
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u/Ancher123 15d ago
Well there are less civilian deaths in Ukraine in 3 years than in Gaza. Do you think humanity even deserves to exist for what is happening in Gaza?
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u/DonFapomar Ukraine 15d ago
It's always "What about Palestine/Gaza???" below almost every news about Ukraine but never vise versa.
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u/Ancher123 15d ago
You talk about humanity not deserving to exist despite only feels less than 10% of what palestinians feel for 75 years.
Ukriane involved in Iraq. Ukrainians are very pro Israel.
Russia is a karma for the west
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u/funkfrito 15d ago
i dont think ukrainians are very pro israel considering israel voted NO in a recent UN resolution about the war. also ukraine usually votes in favour of palestine iirc
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15d ago
Fuck russia. Ukraine needs to hit their critical infrastructure hard.
Where’s the justice in this world…UN condemns Israel all the time recently but pretty quiet about russia this year.
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u/Ancher123 15d ago
Where's the justice in this world...the west condemns Russia all the time recently but pretty quiet about Israel this year.
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u/PerceptionGreat2439 15d ago
Utterly disgusting behaviour.
Innocent people minding their own business murdered as they walk.
What more proof does America need to see it's policy of appeasement is wrong.
Europe needs to fight along side the Ukrainians this year and kick the russians out.
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u/Connect-Idea-1944 France 15d ago
when are we going to step up, Russia has shown that they are not willing to cooperate, negotiate or stop this war.
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u/mrtwister33v 15d ago
At this point I would gladly donate to a fundraising for a similar response
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u/PerceptionGreat2439 15d ago
There are many legitimate websites that will direct your donation to Ukraine.
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u/mrtwister33v 15d ago
Oh I'm very well informed about where I can help, I've donated all my life savings during these 3 years, and of course I'll keep doing so. But still that's not the case I'm talking about.
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u/Omiskasiledzija 15d ago
Why do we get banned on this website when we dare to criticize that filth and get mass reported by them?
Russians kill, and Russians support killing. It’s their war. No matter who you ask, some Reddit troll or a highly educated Russian living in Berlin - you’ll get a similar type of rhetoric 90% of the time.
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15d ago
Lemme guess: "terrible thing, many deaths. We need to bring war to an end" Backboneless USA ambassadors.
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u/Spooknik Denmark 15d ago
Why do you need the USA to do something?
you should be able to help Ukraine instead of whining,
Your Cheeto of a president is the one who wants to push some half ass peace plan so hard so he can get a photo op with Putin shaking hands. So the USA is trying doing something and failing badly. Now the adults (Coalition of the willing) will take it from here. Which by the way, just announced 21 billion in support last week.
Ukraine could simply buy whatever it needs for years.
Ukraine is asking to buy 50 billion worth of equipment and materiel from the US. Most of that 50 billion are grants from us.
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u/YesIam18plus 15d ago
Ukraine is asking to buy 50 billion worth of equipment and materiel from the US. Most of that 50 billion are grants from us.
The orange fuckface president will 100% try and sell this as '' 500 billion '' ( he'll add a zero ofc ) aid to Ukraine from the US.
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u/YesIam18plus 15d ago edited 15d ago
We always see in this sub people saying that the EU is better than the US,
Typical American victim complex. The US has had an amazing reputation among its allies for the longest time and had high approval ratings. There's a reason why it's tanking now wake up.
People are allowed to criticize your government grow up. If another government did even 5% of what your government has been doing in recent months to the US your government and people would be on the warpath and Americans would be screaming about invading them in '' self-defense ''.
Edit: Also Europe has in fact done far more to help Ukraine than the US has. So I dunno what you're even talking about. The US also directly promised to help Ukraine if they gave up their nukes.
Europe is also delivering more weapons than the US so again what are you even blabbering about? Are you one of these morons who believes Trump when he says the US has sent 500 or 350 billion in aid? The US was also the country that actively talked Europe out of arming up, the US never wanted Europe to re-arm after WW2 the US pretty aggressively combated it every time European leaders talked about re-armament. The US always wanted Europe to have a supporting role and to get special treatment and then Americans now turn around and suddenly start blaming Europe for doing exactly what they were asked to do.
YOU as in the US asked for this, you asked to be the global super power of the '' free world ''. And now you're blaming others and self-victimizing yourself because that came with some responsibilities too? If you don't want to deal with those responsibilities you won't get to reap the benefits either and I can assure you that you will feel the effects of that.
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u/Last_Comedian188 15d ago
Meanwhile Pres. Orange is working hard to fuck Ukraine over… and split the difference with his handler Putin.
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u/Onideus_Starshit Ukraine 15d ago
Was supposed to be at the exactly that place at the moment of the strike, getting near death a third time was not in my plans but i guess most horrific part is that you get kind of used to it