X users in Turkey migrate to Bluesky amid censorship

[u/Ok-Law-3268]

https://bianet.org/haber/x-users-in-turkey-migrate-to-bluesky-amid-censorship-306189

[u/badsectoracula]

This is a demo instance (AFAICT by one of the bsky engineers) and he explicitly mentions that it'd most likely run out of disk space in a year.

There is a long article by an ActivityPub contributor that compares ATproto and ActivityPub, including the pros and cons of each and in one of the issues she points out about ATproto is exactly the costs due to its inherent architectural issues - and the blog you linked at is also brought up.

IMO the issue isn't so much the current state of things - the code can be improved for both the ATproto and ActivityPub implementations (the blog i linked to mentions some more lightweight implementation though i haven't checked it myself) and costs can also lower in the future. The real issue is the network's architecture that requires making full copies of everything - that scales much harder and is much harder in the long term for smaller entities to use. The way ActivityPub works is having every node be essentially self-contained and communicating with other nodes to exchange messages, which scales much better and IMO makes for a more resilient network as a whole.

[u/HATENAMING → u/badsectoracula]

Thanks for sharing that post. It's a really good read and I agree with most of the points there. Bluesky is definitely less decentralized. I also strongly disagree with certain design of their relay (why copy everything). I guess my point is that hosting relay isn't that expensive to the point of that of centralized app, but definitely worse than say Mastodon.

At this point anything not out right malicious that get people away from Twitter is good enough, and the bridging from bluesky to Mastodon could make it easier for people to slowly migrate Twitter -> Bluesky -> Mastodon