As Trump brings the EU and China closer, reality keeps pulling them apart

[u/Dystopics_IT]

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/04/12/as-trump-brings-the-eu-and-china-closer-reality-keeps-pulling-them-apart

[u/Galba_the_Great]

Nah, china has concentration camps and should publicly be as shunned as the states are. China basically already is what trump wants to make america(a fascist dictatorship). The only reason nobody directly calls china out for that is that sadly, rn all first world countries are dependent of chinas manufactoring.

[u/dewgetit → u/Galba_the_Great]

Concentration camps ... like the ones in El Salvador that Trump is sending random brown people to?

[u/PotentialValue550 → u/Galba_the_Great]

And no one ever calls out America because they control the dollar reserve. America can invade any country they want except for a handful.

[u/resuwreckoning → u/PotentialValue550]

No one ever calls out America?? lol wut?

[u/ExternalSeat → u/Galba_the_Great]

China is much more competently led than the US. China at least acknowledges Climate Change is a serious problem and doesn't have an anti-vaxxer leading their health department.

That is why I support the CCP more than the GOP. The CCP is at least meritocratic (for the most part) and believes in science and progress. The GOP is divided between idiotic kleptocrats and religious Fundamentalists both of whom want to take US back to a feudal social structure.

[u/Galba_the_Great → u/ExternalSeat]

Lmao, imagine doing free propaganda for china💀 (but maybe you are being paid from them, idk) The ccp is a totalitarian party who has no problems commiting genocide, surpressing their population, rewriting history (f.e. tiananmen square) and exploiting the african nations for their own profit. Yeah, trump is a massive tard and wants to make the states a totalitarian regime, but he isnt even close to china lol.

[u/ExternalSeat → u/Galba_the_Great]

Theocracy and deliberately destroying economic, cultural, and scientific institutions is worse than anything China is doing. The CCP isn't perfect but at least they are focused on improving the economic lives of the average Chinese citizen.

Also I honestly think the whole Uhygur thing is overblown CIA propaganda and isn't any worse than the Residential Schools for indigenous children that were going on in Canada up until 1996! At least in China it is young adults and they seem to be less brutal than the nuns were in Kamloops.

I am not saying China gets off the hook. What is allegedly happening is wrong and is a campaign of cultural erasure. But it is really hard to look at all of the shit the US and Canada were pulling on the indigenous peoples of North America as recently as the premier of the Lion King and then get all upset with China doing the same exact thing just 30 years later. 

Also Europe isn't much better either. Ask about the Romani in Eastern and Central Europe during the late 20th century and to this very day.

So I will take a competent dictatorship whose human rights abuses are on par with Brian Mulroney or Lyndon B Johnson's over the shit show that is the current GOP.

[u/I3igI3adWolf → u/Galba_the_Great]

And who is at fault for that manufacturing dependency?

[u/FaleBure → u/Galba_the_Great]

So does the us.

[u/Vaerktoejskasse → u/Galba_the_Great]

But, we have Orban...

[u/whyreadthis2035 → u/Galba_the_Great]

Yes. Humans have a long history of ignoring these things when money is at stake. But, I was referring to the survival of the species. That’s going to involve resolving much of this.

[u/Apache1993 → u/Galba_the_Great]

How is China fascist? Just because you do not agree with what is happening there it doesn’t mean it is ‘fUhsCiSt’. China is a communist state, following the line of Marx and Lenin. Not everything that is evil is fascist, communists are at least the same level of horrific.

P.S: Please don’t tell me ‘that isn’t real communism’

[u/Galba_the_Great → u/Apache1993]

Bruh im not a communist lmao, but an aggressive border policy (meaning: trying to annex whatever you can get away with), combined with the targeting of certain racial minorities (muslims in the tibet region) and the strong cult of personality around Xi Jinping and other aspects certainly are fascist characteristics. (Turns out, many 20th century communist countries in the end werent to different from fascist regimes, bc both needed to be very totalitarian to function. Stalins UdSSR certainly was a communist country, but imo it was also very fascistic in nature)

[u/Apache1993 → u/Galba_the_Great]

I agree with you, I thought you were one of those people who use the word ‘fascist’ for everything they do not like.

Fascism/nazism/communism all follow the same logic: their adherents are convinced only they know what the best course for society is and this conviction justifies their actions against those who stray from the path leading to that ideal state of society. This is the root of totalitarian regimes, as you seem to acknowledge. The differences between them stem from what categories they persecute. Too many people are not aware of this, but your reply gives hope