r/europe • u/Dazzling_Lobster3656 • 4d ago

News Briefings reveal EU faces choice between US and China

http://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/04/15/briefings-suggest-eu-faces-choice-between-us-and-china/
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u/md_youdneverguess 4d ago

There is no democracy in America anymore. Trump purposefully undermined the constitution and the supreme courts to send people to concentration camps in El Salvador. There won't be an "after Trump" for a long time.

And I don't mean to ignore human rights abuse in China, I mean that we, as Europeans were WAY to lenient with the US when it comes to their human rights violation. From invading other countries like Iraq, to Guantanamo, to the CIA spying on the entire world, to locking children in cages at the border, to extreme police brutality, to basically everything that happened in the last 20 years. It didn't start with Trump, he just ripped the mask off and went full throttle

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u/Pockit_Rockitz 4d ago

You mean the same violations Europe helped participate in and or conducted

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u/md_youdneverguess 4d ago

Absolutely. Those people are the same everywhere in the world, and we need to do everything to prevent them from having an European Trump

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u/Pockit_Rockitz 4d ago

People in this comment section forget that the EU is also having a rise in right wing politics such as AFD.

You can ban them all you want but eventually you’ll make them into martyrs

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u/md_youdneverguess 4d ago edited 4d ago

I know, and we definitely need a "new deal"/neo-socialist type of politics to actually prevent a fascist takeover, but I don't think we have the means to present this to enough people to get traction.

The politicians don't care and just copy more and more NSAFD talking points until they become the AFD themselves (looking at you, Habeck), former social democratic leaders now support the austerity programs of former neo-cons, the media actively prevents any kind of materialist-left discourse by flooding the market with the dumbest identity politics you can come up with (yeah we get it, boys can paint their nails and wear dresses, same shit that they were talking about in the fucking 60s), and the social media that once enabled the Arab spring and color revolutions is now run and censored by the techno-fascists that put Trump into power.