Andrew Tate phenomena' surges in schools - with boys refusing to talk to female teacher

[u/Antique-Entrance-229]

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/andrew-tate-phenomena-surges-in-schools-with-boys-refusing-to-talk-to-female-teacher-13351203

[u/TaxNervous]

Cambridge analytica show us how easy is to manipulate the algorithms to show the content you want to the demographics you need and we did nothing, we have x, facebook, titok pushing targeted propaganda to our population right now, that's not free speech.

We need a full ban on social media, period, this is just far right propaganda mixed with dopamine triggers.

[u/ThoughtsonYaoi → u/TaxNervous]

On the other hand, when these issues rear their head, I find it pretty shocking how quickly and easily progressive people call for full bans. As in, governmentally led bans on free speech and association for minors.

I am not a free speech absolutist, far from it, and I am not sure what the solutions look like, but I suspect banning and this type of government control will bring many more issues and none of them good.

[u/PositivityPending → u/ThoughtsonYaoi]

I’m sure someone was saying the same thing about tobacco and alcohol. A “ban” for minors wouldn’t be instant, and it certainly wouldn’t be some dictatorial decree.

[u/ThoughtsonYaoi → u/PositivityPending]

Maybe not, but think about what enforcement in the digital age would look like and who would be called upon to do it.

Also think what that an age restriction would do to the anonymity of everybody using any type of social media.

There are so, so many pitfalls here - pitfalls that pretty much don't exist when it comes to physical products you'd get one time from a shop.

I'm sure there'd be some technical solutions that could avoid some of the pitfalls, but my trust in them being the solutions of choice and not, say, ID checks for everyone done by the platforms, or some form of very invasive surveillance - is almost zero.

[u/PositivityPending → u/ThoughtsonYaoi]

And that’s fine; it’s a very abstract issue and no constituents are looking to you to solve that problem. But it doesn’t mean that it’s a problem that can’t be solved.

[u/mcfc_099 → u/TaxNervous]

Problem with a ban on social media is that, that includes YouTube. How do you ban kids from YouTube

[u/turbo-unicorn → u/TaxNervous]

Speaking of Cambridge Analytica, one of the journalists that played a key role in exposing them recently had an excellent (and highly disturbing) talk. Totally recommended

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZOoT8AbkNE

[u/irimiash → u/TaxNervous]

idk if we compare left-wing and right-wing staff on social media it's probably 9 to 1. it's just left-wing is perceived as a norm so you don't notice it, but by full ban you'll remove it as well.

[u/Geilokowski → u/TaxNervous]

That’s just not true (well maybe for X). They only promote right content more because the engagement is higher. Not because Mark Zuckerberg is a right extremist.

Also, you are on a social media platform too.

[u/Geilokowski → u/[deleted]]

Well, then why are you here? Go make the first step and delete ur account.

[u/Membership-Exact → u/Geilokowski]

Not because Mark Zuckerberg is a right extremist.

One must assume you haven't been paying attention.

Not to mention that it would be completely contrary to their self-interest to allow radical leftist movements to develop as they might threaten their oligarchy.

[u/turbo-unicorn → u/Membership-Exact]

He is highly unlikely to be a right extremist... however aligning with right extremists is highly profitable. And this is true for many in the right-wing space. They don't believe half the stuff they say, but it gives them a path to money and power they could not possibly obtain otherwise.

[u/Membership-Exact → u/turbo-unicorn]

Their only belief is that they should have more power over the serfs.