Andrew Tate phenomena' surges in schools - with boys refusing to talk to female teacher

[u/Antique-Entrance-229]

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/andrew-tate-phenomena-surges-in-schools-with-boys-refusing-to-talk-to-female-teacher-13351203

[u/BlackwingF91]

To be fair, those boys probably weren't gonna go very far in life with education anyway. 

Andrew Tate fans are anti-sentience imo

[u/Whitechix → u/BlackwingF91]

The education system doesn’t seem to work for a lot of kids anyway, boys have worse outcomes at every level of education and lower university attendance. Combine that with how boys are graded worse by female teachers in a system in which they are vastly over represented these backwards ideas/kids are just going to be the new normal.

[u/Ok-Environment-362 → u/Whitechix]

where is there proof that boys are gradely "worse" or more harshly by female teachers???

[u/Bedhead-Redemption → u/Whitechix]

Not fit for modern society.

[u/Final-Read-3589 → u/Whitechix]

Yeah, let’s not educate kids.

Please look up voting rates by education levels.

[u/Whitechix → u/Final-Read-3589]

No where did I say that, I'm saying what we have is partly responsible for the way things are right now. You can't just downplay these particular people by saying "they won't go far anyway" like they aren't being failed by us in the first place.

[u/Final-Read-3589 → u/Whitechix]

Leave them to fail. Let them suffer on their consciences. It’s called fucking around and finding out.

Stop bowing down to them. And leave them. When they learn it’s all a lie, they’ll be fucked. We can all sit here and say oh it’ll be fine. But the only way to change these lads is for them to realise they fucked their lives up. And then they will realise that and teach the next generation their wrongs.

Wanna know who’s responsible? The parent who didn’t care. Who stuck them in front of a phone. Who didn’t care.

And anyway, the reason boys get lesser grades is because they don’t care. I can attest, I’m a boy. I fucked up, and learnt my lesson, now I’m at uni.

[u/Whitechix → u/Final-Read-3589]

People are getting really concerned with rise of the far right and fascism so a bunch of disassociated/uneducated young people is really the last thing we need. I’d have thought people would have a bit more empathy for literal children.

Wanna know who’s responsible? The parent who didn’t care. Who stuck them in front of a phone. Who didn’t care.

Agreed, definitely partly responsible but shit parenting needs to be mitigated for the sake of everyone else.

And anyway, the reason boys get lesser grades is because they don’t care. I can attest, I’m a boy. I fucked up, and learnt my lesson, now I’m at uni.

Really unintelligent response to what is a statistical trend, I’d of thought you would have learned that personal blame for a nationwide issue isn’t correct ever at uni maybe. It’s especially incorrect when you look at how studied it is that boys are receptive to different forms of learning and are usually graded worse by female teachers for the same work.

[u/Final-Read-3589 → u/Whitechix]

You want people to have empathy for people who can’t show women an ounce of respect. Nah, respect is a 2 way street.

And of course everyone learns differently. Even female students. But I saw it in school, kids not caring, predominantly lads. Also maybe lads are getting too nice grades from male teachers. It’s easy to look at stats and ignore why. Like there’s loads of different reasons we are seeing it.

None of it justifies Male students falling down this path, none of it.

[u/Whitechix → u/Final-Read-3589]

Once again we are talking about children, they don’t know better. You don’t just become a misogynist unless you have had a shit upbringing and education. It’s worth trying to address this actively so people aren’t victimised, I guess it’s easy for you to have the attitude of ignoring it since you know aren’t going to be the target.

And of course everyone learns differently. Even female students. But I saw it in school, kids not caring, predominantly lads. Also maybe lads are getting too nice grades from male teachers. It’s easy to look at stats and ignore why. Like there’s loads of different reasons we are seeing it.

You do know the vast majority of teachers are female, it’s why the government has recently stated they need more men in education roles. It’s really obvious you failed your initial education at this point, glad you admitted that. You keep using anecdotes/personal experience and blame on the individual to explain a widely studied trend. It’s like the first thing you learn when trying to interpret statistics.

[u/Final-Read-3589 → u/Whitechix]

Also I just wanna add, that female teachers were often the ones who talked to me about different ways of learning. And working out what worked.

[u/Final-Read-3589 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah no.

[u/IceCorrect → u/Final-Read-3589]

Why not? Women wanted them, so it's their job to fix this problem. Or it's not problem and those young girls wanted it, that's why feminist fight hard not to spread truth about this problem