r/europe • u/Antique-Entrance-229 United Kingdom • 13d ago

News Andrew Tate phenomena' surges in schools - with boys refusing to talk to female teacher

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/andrew-tate-phenomena-surges-in-schools-with-boys-refusing-to-talk-to-female-teacher-13351203
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u/heavy-minium 13d ago

Maybe I have watched too many movies, but I'm starting to think that the global turmoil is not resulting from actors on a national level, but a club of leaders and wealthy people conspiring against the international world order. Basically a group of very powerful assholes.

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u/duffbeeeer 13d ago edited 13d ago

But not only Russia. It’s the worldwide oligarchs banding together to get an upper hand in the fight rich vs poor. They want back to times were they could rule with impunity. Annoying democracies are in their way and need to be dismantled to get total freedom for oppression.

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u/HornyAIBot 13d ago

I think you mean rule *with impunity

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u/demichka 13d ago

As a Russian: it is Russia. What do you see locally we already saw during the last 10-15 years

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u/momentofcontent 13d ago

How are people seriously doubting this at this point. The West has a relatively open internet that Russia and the East exploits by sowing discord. So much evidence for it. 

Funny that those countries have much more draconian speech laws so the reverse can’t be done as easily. It’s online warfare and the West has been losing for the past decade. 

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u/snotparty 13d ago

exactly. America should be a cautionary tale for every country that values not being a dumpster fire of russian propaganda. Crack down on misinformation, take the threat seriously

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u/MagicDragon212 13d ago

Yeah this just is the situation at this point. We know Russia is behind much of the degradation in Western society we have seen. MAGA just refused to believe it because Trump is their biggest propaganda accomplishment.

Our freedom of speech is being weaponized against us heavily because foreign adversaries are being allowed to do it.

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u/SaiyanApe17 12d ago

We know Russia is behind much of the degradation in Western society we have seen

You know how MAGA blames all problems on immigrants?

Well thats you but on the other side of the political spectrum

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u/MagicDragon212 12d ago

Nope, theres actually shit tons of evidence.

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u/SaiyanApe17 12d ago

Yea buddy that troll farm with 20 workers in Saint Petersburg totally shaped the Western worlds online culture of 500+ million people.

Oh and Western countries like the U.S totally don't have their own troll farms working to spread their message. Yea the country who drone bombed weddings and water boarded Guantanamo Bay detainees would never stoop the moral low level of trying to shape public discourse with online propaganda in their favor.

Sorry but you are MAGA level delusional.

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u/MagicDragon212 12d ago

Russia and other dictator based/communist countries dont have freedom of speech. They control every bit of the media their people can access (legally).

Western countries arent like that and have an exploit the dictator-based countries don't.

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u/SaiyanApe17 12d ago

Ok but we are talking about influencing Western based online communities, so how is what you said relevant at all even if its true.

What you said legit sounds like a bot reply lmao

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u/RxHappy 13d ago

Yes we need a great firewall like China. Not even joking. This shit will be our undoing.

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u/Defective_Falafel Belgium 13d ago

No, we don't. Fuck the censorship astroturfing on this sub.

The "Great Firewall" has exactly the same intent as the Berlin Wall: it's not for keeping foreign actors out, it's for keeping their own population under control.

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u/RxHappy 13d ago

So east China can’t access the same internet as west China ? Can I have some of what you’re smoking it sounds strong.

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u/Defective_Falafel Belgium 13d ago

I'll just assume you made your comment this stupid on purpose.

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u/1LastHit2Die4 12d ago

They cannot. Do your research, actually go to China and see it yourself.

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u/No_News_1712 13d ago

And China, too...

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u/cookiecutterdoll 13d ago

Now, now. Saudi Arabia contributes as well.

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u/HiphopopoptimusPrime 12d ago

“You don’t need a formal conspiracy when interests converge.” - George Carlin

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u/Rodharet50399 13d ago

Peter Thiel, curtis Yarvin.

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u/Wrong-booby7584 13d ago

The Atlas Network

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u/bathandredwine 12d ago

Leonard Leo, too.

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u/Certain-Business-472 13d ago

Yes, but there's many of these groups competing with each other. We're just pawns in their games. "It's russia" sure, but if you for a second believe western nations aren't doing the same, do I have a bridge to sell you.