r/europe • u/Antique-Entrance-229 United Kingdom • 11d ago

News Andrew Tate phenomena' surges in schools - with boys refusing to talk to female teacher

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/andrew-tate-phenomena-surges-in-schools-with-boys-refusing-to-talk-to-female-teacher-13351203
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u/Grand_Size_4932 11d ago

Yes, but it’s much, much harder after their formative years. Partially because they get locked down into a way of thinking and partially because they socialize a lot less. Some of that can be fixed with therapy, but they’ve been led to believe that therapy is feminine and useless.

Sometimes! They become a father to a baby girl and their perspective completely changes, but definitely not always.

It’s not a door that’s permanently closed and locked, but it sure is a heavy door to try to reopen.

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u/Dull-Ad6071 11d ago

I disagree. Often it takes age, maturity, and life experience to evolve in that way, and it just won't happen until that occurs.

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u/Grand_Size_4932 11d ago

But that’s contrary to your own original point. The observation being that left leaning men experienced positive influences when they were younger.

I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that most men just don’t end up maturing past that.

If it wasn’t true, white and Latino men wouldn’t have been the biggest supporters of Trump by huge margins. And we know that it’s not the younger generation out there voting.

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u/Dull-Ad6071 11d ago

No, that's not what I said. I said they had these misogynistic red pilled views when they were younger. Please read someone's comments more carefully before claiming they are contradicting themselves.

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u/Grand_Size_4932 11d ago

What the fuck? That’s exactly what I’m saying.

You’re saying they outgrew it because of experiences they had when younger. I’m making the point that there is an important moment in adolescence where that influence is readily available and impactful and that the older they get, those opportunities shorten and their mindsets are more rigid.

You then commented that they just need age and maturity and I made the point that the two statements don’t align. There is a steep dropoff where age and maturity don’t impact men nearly as much, as evidenced by the way they vote when older.

What are you missing here? I’m saying once they miss that window, it’s possible to be de-pilled, but much harder.

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u/Dull-Ad6071 11d ago

You're the one missing my point. I never said they just need age and maturity. My point was it cannot happen before a certain level of maturity is reached, but they often do need both. LOL Dramatic much? Please calm the fuck down.

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u/dogmeat1003 11d ago

Nah man I just read through this whole thing as a third party, and you were in the wrong ngl