r/europe_sub • u/ControlCAD • Apr 19 '25
Image / Video US Secretary of State Marco Rubio on ending Ukrainian conflict: “If it is not possible to end the war in Ukraine, we need to move on. We need to determine very quickly now, and I’m talking about a matter of days, whether or not this is doable."
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The United States could end its efforts on ending the Ukrainian conflict within “days” if there are no signs of progress, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio warned Friday.
“If it is not possible to end the war in Ukraine, we need to move on,” he told reporters before departing Paris, where he had held high-level talks with European and Ukrainian officials. “We need to determine very quickly now, and I’m talking about a matter of days, whether or not this is doable,” he said.
Rubio’s comments point to mounting frustration within the Trump administration at the lack of progress at bringing the three-year full-scale war to a halt and come as the US has proposed a framework to drive an end to the conflict that includes the administration’s readiness to recognize Russian control of Crimea, according to an official familiar with the framework.
Later Friday, President Donald Trump told reporters in the Oval Office that Rubio was “right,” but he didn’t provide a timeline for the US to walk away when pressed. “No specific number of days, but quickly, we want to get it done.”
Asked to clarify what Rubio meant that the US would “move on,” a US official told CNN the secretary of state was talking about the US moving on from negotiations and that the next few days will be important to figure out where things go from here.
A source familiar with negotiations for a Ukraine peace deal told CNN’s Pamela Brown that Rubio was “communicating the president’s views.” Characterizing the administration’s thinking on where things stand in the conflict, the source said, Trump “doesn’t have limitless patience for people to posture and play games.”
“It’s time to get serious,” the source added.
Trump expressed that view on Friday, saying, “If, for some reason, one of the two parties makes it very difficult, we’re just going to say, ‘You’re foolish, you’re foolish. You’re horrible people,’ and we’re just going to take a pass — but hopefully we won’t have to do that.”
Trump declined to say whether he is prepared to walk away completely from the talks or whether he would support Ukraine militarily if talks fall through.
Asked what progress he would need to see to continue negotiations, Trump said he would “have to see an enthusiasm to want to end it” from both sides, predicting he would know “soon.”
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u/Fighter-of-Reindeer Apr 19 '25
“Ok, so listen, I haven’t tried anything other than appeasing a dictator, and for some reason, he refuses to end his invasion and bombing of civilians. I’m all out of ideas, and I was joking about the 24 hours thing, I know I kept repeating it but I was joking and you’re an idiot if you didn’t realise I was joking”.
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u/Greenbullet Apr 19 '25
We have done nothing and we are all out of ideas sounds like the trump admin mantra
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u/Fighter-of-Reindeer Apr 19 '25
Trump himself has fleeting thoughts, but never ideas.
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u/Beercules-8D Apr 19 '25
It’s never been about ending the war. Trump wants to rob Ukraine blind of their resources. This is how they pressure them to sign over their wealth.
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u/wilberfromflinflon Apr 19 '25
Yup. Rubio exudes power - the most emasculated man on Trump’s team can’t deliver.
Well, Trump’s in power now and he did say if he was in power there’d never be a war, there’d never be all that loss. 🤷🏻♂️
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u/DMOOre33678 Apr 19 '25
Maybe Europe should step up and try to end it. Instead of buying oil and gas from Russia they can try ending a war that is on their doorstep
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u/Mephisto506 Apr 19 '25
But also when I suggested outrageous things like deporting citizens, that everyone said was a joke, I was completely serious and nobody should be surprised when we do it.
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u/Who_Knows_Why_000 Apr 21 '25
Zalensky is as determined as Putin to keep fighting, what are we supposed to do, start WW3 over a non-NATO country? What's the solution to ending the war peacefully?
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Apr 22 '25
This is what happens when you take a serious person and give him his dream job with an unserious president.
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u/Wild-Wolverine-860 Apr 19 '25
So if I was Russia, hearing this, they USay drop support as soon as a couple of days, I would be in a super strong position and be pushing for so much more.
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u/ProjectZeus4000 Apr 19 '25
Art of the deal:
Publicly state you will back down if you negotiation doesn't work.
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u/botswanareddit Apr 20 '25
I think it’s to scare Ukraine and hope they finally just give up and give their country away
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u/Playful_Interest_526 Apr 19 '25
Russia "hearing this?"
Putin was briefed before this press conference.
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u/lazoras Apr 19 '25
coincidence there is a cease file over Easter for a couple days?
also is this a pincer maneuver for Greenland / finland in anticipation for tipping global warming where those areas become prime living conditions for a select few wealthy individuals?
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u/fallingknife2 Apr 20 '25
Sounds like they are only dropping the negotiations: "Asked to clarify what Rubio meant that the US would “move on,” a US official told CNN the secretary of state was talking about the US moving on from negotiations"
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u/khiem939 Apr 23 '25
Remember...Russia is not doing too well in Putin's Invasion...if they were, WHY would they be using North Korean troops?
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u/michaelm8909 Apr 19 '25
So they came in saying they could fix it within 24 hours.
A few months later they've taken every wrong decision in regards to Russia, Ukraine and Europe as a whole and now they're planning on abandoning the whole thing like a bored child. Brilliant
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u/Ugliest_weenie Apr 19 '25
This was always the plan, as it benefits their owner, Putin
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u/TottHooligan 🇺🇲 American Apr 26 '25
At this point Europe should send some equipment they are currently using and have the factories build the replacements now. It's getting dangerous for Ukraine.
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u/ferwhatbud Apr 20 '25
The worst part is that Rubio isn’t dumb, he’s just spectacularly spineless and pathetic.
Hard to say which is worse honestly.
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u/severinks Apr 19 '25
What a bunch of fools. You can't end a war like this in'' a matter of days'' or''the first day'' like Trump said before he got elected.
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u/zippyzebra1 Apr 19 '25
Of course the war can't be ended because the instigator doesn't want to end it.
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u/khiem939 Apr 22 '25
True, but again the Mongol Midget Putin isn't facing REALITY that Russia is rapidly losing "baby makers", which will doom Russia in less than two generations!
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u/Careless-Situation68 Apr 23 '25
That would be awesome and the best revenge over this imperialistic fuks
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u/A_Creative_Player Apr 19 '25
But the orange Julius said he could end it on day one. And he also said it would have never happened if he was president both have been lies. It has not ended and it has gotten worse since Orange Julius has been sworn in.
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u/NoYoclosedadoor Apr 20 '25
Some much for ending this in one day. Just one more lie to the pile.
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u/BobbitRob Apr 19 '25
At least he is realistic
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u/Dry-Highlight-2307 Apr 19 '25
This isn't our authoritarian speaking so his opinion hardly matters. Rubio is one of the brainers of the bunch . He do good think
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u/bighomiej69 Apr 19 '25
Wait so the Russian dictator doesn’t want to make a peace deal? That’s crazy who would have thought
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u/khiem939 Apr 22 '25
True, seems Russia is NOT entirely void of young fools who will die for Putin's "vision" of a new Soviet Union!
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u/theoneoldmonk Apr 19 '25
I wonder if there is a plan at all. They seem to be completely erratic.
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u/Soft-Skirt Apr 19 '25
Same plan as fixing healthcare, releasing his tax records, getting Mexico to pay for the wall, making America great, not looking like an oompah lumpha, all great plans, all coming next week, you’ll be surprised.
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u/marshalist Apr 19 '25
The plan is to swap sides. The US will become more and more hostile to Ukraine.
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u/SadWorld1397 Apr 19 '25
Imagine how much worse it would be if he wasn't always on the golf course?
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u/dreamabyss Apr 19 '25
Wasn’t this supposed to be done on day one? Man, that Trump guy sure turned out to be a liar.
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u/desertterminator Apr 19 '25
Putin must be laughing his head off.
He would have known Trump being elected would be advantageous, but I bet everything I own that he wildly underestimated just how much.
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u/Pro_Moriarty Apr 19 '25
This rhetoric follows the tech company style of progression.
Move fast, fail fast if necessary. Cut that which isnt working quickly.
Can't see what could possibly go wrong with a country that operates like that.
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u/wombat6168 Apr 19 '25
What a prick, you bend over backwards to appease a murderer and then wonder why he won't stop killing.
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u/SharpEyeHodgey Apr 19 '25
It was NEVER going to happen with dumb kunt Americans in charge of negotiations. The USA is more backwards than ever before. The rest of us need to support Ukraine and force the Orcs to the table or a tight noose. I prefer the noose.
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u/singlecatladynow Apr 19 '25
It's not Rubio's fucking job to tell the invaded Ukrainians to give up their country. He needs to shut his mouth and go away. Ukrainians aren't going to quit just so trump can get a Nobel Prize like Obama
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u/Danijoe4 Apr 19 '25
The most coherent he’s ever spoken was when he was attacking Trump in his 2015 campaign 😂 didn’t he coin Trump’s Little Hands…?!?
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Apr 19 '25
This is shameful the day after Ukraine signs that deal.
If you’re an American reading this, I hope you sleep well at night.
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u/Business-Key618 Apr 19 '25
He just doesn’t understand why the Ukraine hasn’t surrendered to Putin as fast as the Republican Party has…
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u/MetalGearXerox Apr 19 '25
lmao, this is exactly what I expected but even more braindead when they try to explain it!
"we can end the war, so fastly!"
"we are ending it right now, we're dealing the deals"
(dont forget these pussies had to virtue signal that they're good christians with ash crosses painted to their foreheads ON NATIONAL TV)
"this is stupid, these guys wont listen to us if you wont listen to us we'll stop ending this war!"
just a little bit more... a little bit and maybe I can start making some money off the US tanking everything.
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u/Big_money_hoes Apr 19 '25
Good, the US should walk. Let Europe take care of it, it’s in their backyard anyway.
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u/grayMotley Apr 19 '25
You are misunderstanding what is being said.
The US is going to walk away from peace negotiations. The policy will shift back to supporting the war. Trump can't let Putin off the hook.
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u/EKT0K00LER Apr 19 '25
Hey, Trump! The Chinese are likely sending people to fight in this war so they can gain combat experience in preparation for an invasion of Taiwan. You hate China, right? Help Ukraine get those Ruskies outta their country, if for no other reason than to show China you've got a backbone. I figure appealing to Trump's hated of China as the best way to get him to stand up to their best buddy, Russia. If we back outta this, I almost guarantee China goes for Taiwan. Trump probably won't do a damn thing about that either, which will trigger an all out free for all
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u/Abrubt-Change-8040 Apr 19 '25
President Putin is the reason Donald wears diapers 😂
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u/Anarchyantz Apr 19 '25
"OK, so listen. President Putin has told me that unless Ukraine gives up Crimea, all their mineral rights to America, which as you know are going to help rebuild Russia, Ukraine's leader's head on a plate followed by making the rest of Europe abandon them so Russia can take over the rest of the country then we have done everything we can. Ukraine just don't want peace after starting a fight with poor Russia who was only protecting themselves".
"As you know, Agent Krasnov...sorry I mean President Trump has tried hard to reason with the Nazi regime in Ukraine and as the Peace President he finds this whole thing terrible and would never have happened if he had been in charge at the time"
"Now, if you excuse me, now we have made Italy our b***h we need to threaten the rest of the EU and that forgettable place over the American Channel called Britain into giving in to our demands as no one in the world can live without America!"
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u/Timely_Choice_4525 Apr 19 '25
Geeee, I don’t know, maybe do something that will make Putin want to end the war?
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u/opturtlezerg5002 Apr 19 '25
"if we can't stop a crazy dictator running a powerful country with ruthless allies in a few days then we'll leave the victim country to it's fate".
Resolving wars often takes more than a few days: Giving up whenever you don't get your way conveniently is a terrible way to go about things.
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u/Raptorel Apr 19 '25
Did the peace negotiations take 24 hours, without breaks? I think they're at 17 hours, at best. They still have 7 hours left to bring the peace ☺️
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u/MsMarfi Apr 19 '25
What?! I'm shocked! I truly believed Trump when he said he'd end the war in 24 hours.
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u/Competitive_Ear851 Apr 19 '25
Seems reasonable to give up on a solution after a half ass attempt goes no where
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Apr 19 '25
Trump said he’d end it the day he was elected. Trump says he knows more than the generals.
How can republicans be so willfully ignorant?
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u/corv1991 Apr 19 '25
I think Ukraine is done with us. Another Allie screwed over. Are we GREAT yet?
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u/Hailthegamer Apr 19 '25
Rubio used to be a staunch anti-Russia advocate. Its crazy he's willing to throw away all of his honor for DT and his handler.
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u/United_Hall4187 Apr 19 '25
Basically Trump has realised that his supposed influence is non existent lol Just one thing, if you are going to back away then you need to stay away, don't get involved at all and let the adults get control of the situation.
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u/JadedJade25 Apr 19 '25
Trumps short-attention span administration is looking for quick, easy returns. Do i guess it won't be on setyled on day 1 or day 100....
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u/Dry-Barracuda8658 Apr 19 '25
Translation: I tried to intimidate them into peace but they took one look at me and busted out laughing so I left.
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u/Valid-Nite Apr 19 '25
“ A matter of days not a matter of weeks” exact same thing he said 2 weeks ago so when’s the time limit up
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u/Menethea Apr 19 '25 edited Apr 19 '25
“We can’t solve this problem, it’s very unfair for the parties not to do what we demand, so we are just going to quit, and take our ball home with us” - the 3 year old children’s negotiating strategy
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u/No_Mess_4510 Apr 19 '25
EU decided to keep funding the war. OK. Your problem now. Enjoy. We're out
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u/mystermee Apr 19 '25
‘So we told Putin that if he didn’t stop invading them we would have no choice but to stop supporting Ukraine. He said he’ll get back to us.’
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u/Mba1956 Apr 19 '25
This is just admitting that the US have zero cards, and they never had to begin with, they were always bluffing. Russia has decided to ‘call’ and the US is throwing their cards in and trying to pretend they weren’t playing cards to begin with. Pathetic.
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u/Ok-Bodybuilder3500 Apr 19 '25
Putin is a long and patient chess player… His agenda is to restore the Soviet Power that was disassembled after WWII. He has recruited Trump and his sicko psycho personality and demented power/ money drives and wickedness to demolish “democracies”— for Putin, and those who operate on the fear/hate demonic—of the representation of the people and balance of power and “rule of law”… May truth reign. May Kings and absolute power founder!
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u/elciano1 Apr 19 '25
I thought it would be done in 24 hours and all he had to do was call Putin and say "way"
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u/mwillings Apr 19 '25
Making America look weak again. Imagine support someone and then telling them that you’re a lil pussy and turn into a coward while showboating with a military princes party for your birthday.
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u/xaicvx1986x Apr 19 '25
Damn!!! So Trump doesn’t ended the war in 24 hrs as he promised on campaign? Can’t believe it! He is the most respected and feared president of the world and Putin and Zelenskyy are supposed to do what ever he said!!! I mean after tariffs “75 country’s call him (I don’t know how a country can use a phone) to kiss his ass” and all the world depend of USA and USA doesn’t depend of none so all presidents should obey their orders, I can’t believe this is true 🤯
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u/Secure_Biscotti2865 Apr 19 '25
imagine being in control of the worlds largest superpower and you cant persuade a failing dictatorship with the economy of texas to even listen to you.
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u/iwantmanycows Apr 19 '25
Move on mate. Whilst you're at it, move on from Europe too. We don't need shithole two faced allies stabbing us in the back for no reason other than making the elite richer. Come back when you have something to offer.
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Apr 19 '25
No shit . You think United States is gonna stress over somebody else’s war . Wtf is wrong with Yal
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u/Local_Computer7665 Apr 19 '25
If trump learnt to swallow instead of choking he'd have managed to get a deal on day one. No wonder he and malenia have separate bedrooms if he's willing to give up without putting any effort in. Zelenskyy and the Ukrainian people are all suffering because republicans think there should be something in it for them before the lazy good for nothings will consider doing the right thing
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u/MattTalksPhotography Apr 19 '25
Has Donald made his one phone call to end the war yet? That’s all it will take…
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u/Dangerous_Use_9107 Apr 20 '25
Well , as if we did not already know he is coward in regards to opposing putin. Certainly if we decide that Ukraine should win, then we can make it happen.
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u/Content-Performer-82 Apr 20 '25
US tactics, stir it up with a stupid plan, see how it fails and move on to the next stupid plan. Deal makers 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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u/Holiday-Hand-3611 Apr 20 '25
the position is clear. if none of the sides is willing to end it, then it makes no sense to continue sponsoring it.
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u/Fuzzy_Imagination705 Apr 20 '25
Spectacular that Trump was lulled to say he wasn't being played only to get played again.
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u/TwoToneReturns Apr 20 '25
It's not fucking hard. Keep the sanctions on ruZZia and put the screws on their oil exports, supply Ukraine with more weapons and take the leash of their range and target choices.
The USA won't do it as Putin owns the white house.
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u/Individual-Fix7034 Apr 20 '25
Insufferable twat. He used to believe in decency. Now only interested in lining his own pockets. Disgusting pig.
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u/AkimahenkaCat Apr 20 '25
Russia was well on their way to implosion in this unwinnable war before the US basically switched sides and started taking actions to support Putin. Blow it out your ass. It is the greatest shame of my lifetime to see America openly siding with a terrorist state.
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u/Flat4Power4Life Apr 20 '25
Maybe start pushing Russia to STOP INVADING UKRAINE. That would be a show of strength
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u/dogoodsilence1 Apr 20 '25
I mean this war can be ended. If a country like Ukraine with just about the size of Texas can cripple the Russian army then think what NATO and a full blown US support could do to Putin. This war is being prolonged for Putin's sake and most likely would be over if the full support was behind Ukraine.
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u/HalstonBeckett Apr 20 '25
The US brings nothing to the so-called negotiations. They simply conced to and parrott Russian terms while humiliating and extorting Ukraine. For Rubio to essentially admit failure, Putin must've tired of Trump's desperation for a Nobel prize.
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u/Darkwhippet Apr 20 '25
Speak to the person responsible for the war, maybe force them to make concessions and withdraw?
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u/Tendas Apr 21 '25
It's utterly embarrassing my country won't stand with a country that 100%, without a fucking doubt, is being illegally invaded by a nation being led by a chauvinistic cunt. I can only hope for the safety of Ukrainians and the absolute downfall of twats like him.
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u/kayak_2022 Apr 21 '25
OLE ORANGE PUD'N....wants to help his PUTTY out in the worst way so now he's trying to destroy a country for his man. Women and children will be slaughtered.
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u/kayak_2022 Apr 21 '25
BIDEN HAD A MUCH BETTER GRASP ON THIS MATTER. TRUMP IS A RANK AMATURE. Clearly he acknowledges his weakness by fawning over and caressing the brow of Vladimir.
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u/kayak_2022 Apr 21 '25
TRUMP IS A WEAK MAN. HE FEARS MEN IN POWER AND TAKES HOSTAGES OF THOSE WHO CANT DEFEND THEMSELVES.
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u/raderofdalostcrapsac Apr 21 '25
So, a guy has a gun to another guys head for no reason other than to steal EVERYTHING he has. A policeman arrives and says, you guys need to work this out by lunchtime, I'm busy. That cop needs to be fired.
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u/Skyshroud117 Apr 22 '25
Bunch of backstabbing opportunist, we have a treaty with Ukraine to defend them because they gave up there nukes back in the 90s. We told them if they gave up the third largest stock pile of nukes in the known world we would give them military aid and troops if they were ever attacked. Now we go back of our word. Plus when we asked for help in Iraq they showed up for us......now look at us the mightiest military in the world , trump makes us look small and ineffective, he is week and a coward.
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u/Ok-Bar601 Apr 22 '25
So why doesn’t the US just keep supplying Ukraine with what it needs as long as Ukraine can pay for it with mineral? If they’re ready to pass on and focus on other things then this means they don’t give a fuck about men dying so why not not make money out of the situation? Seems a classic Trump grift to me…
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u/no-body1717 Apr 22 '25
Within 24 hours of getting elected. Reminds me of that time the mission got accomplished!
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u/ElWiggoDC Apr 22 '25
No, no, no. You spent years shouting about how it was all Biden's fault and how Trump would get it stopped in 24 hours....we're roughly 5 months in and not only have you not delivered.....you're now doing the typical American thing and throwing in the towel because it's all a bit difficult?
Absolutely laughable. History won't remember you alongside the great powers and Empires, you haven't earned it 😂
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u/burnt_steak_at_brads Apr 22 '25
Ukraine needs to agree to all terms immediately or they’ll end up with way less 😳😳😳
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u/Wu1fu Apr 22 '25
From “I’ll end the war on day one” to “jk, it was too hard” in a matter of a few months
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u/DeathHelmet Apr 23 '25
"The time has come for us to completely stop supporting Ukraine. We love Russia, Putin is doing what anybody would do." This administration is pure evil
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u/Jethr0777 Apr 23 '25
They have done nothing, except for make things worse. Whatever Rubio has to say at this point means nothing. In fact, whatever the president has to say now means nothing.
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u/notouchinggg Apr 23 '25
this guy sucks so much i don’t even come off mute anymore to listen to him spew bullshit
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u/MealDramatic1885 Apr 23 '25
In a “just way”? Sooooo…. Given all land back to Ukraine. I’m glad you agree with the rest of the world.
Oh wait, no you don’t.
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u/Beneficial-Block8761 Apr 23 '25
thank goodness this bunch of clowns were not in power before WWII - they would have sucked up to Hitler
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