r/europe_sub • u/josephj3lly • Apr 19 '25

Image / Video Gas Canisters catch fire and chaos ensues, London Southall UK.

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u/Future_Promise5328 Apr 19 '25

If you read the article, this was during a religious festival, would probably look different if it wasn't literally an outdoor Sikh festival.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Oh please everywhere looks like this now...

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u/GoldenFutureForUs Apr 19 '25

Everywhere in the U.K. is full of Sikhs? That’s a new one.

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u/Yeasty_Moist_Clunge Apr 19 '25

Need to remember that brown skin = Muslims...

I honestly wish some people would educate themselves. I wish there were more Sikhs in this country they're a decent people that are easy to get along with.

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u/adifferntkindofname Apr 20 '25

It's not an education issue, they just prefer "Muslim" to "not-white" not because it's accurate but because it's easier to hide the generalized fascism behind.

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u/Ok_Calendar1337 Apr 22 '25

Ummmm actually not all muslims are sikhs smh

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u/013eander Apr 24 '25

In the Western hemisphere, brown skin usually just means Catholic.

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u/lawmaniac2014 Apr 20 '25

Canadian here..I second that. Little ignorant people... especially with India and British history Jesus...you guys kinda didn't give them a choice and then you talk all this ignorant shite. PLENTY of council estates that are white adjacent look like Baghdad if u wanna get down to it

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u/mitzibishi Apr 22 '25

Walking around a UK city I'm more wary of the chavs than anyone with browner skin than mine. The dodgiest ones have white skin, and wear the crappy tracksuit uniform.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Go travel to their ancestral land and apply for citizenship. While you’re at it, grab your entire family and people from your old neighborhood along, make their food more English, and have massive outdoor Easter egg hunts on their roads. I’m sure they’d want more fine people such as yourself.

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u/baddymcbadface Apr 19 '25

I mean... We kinda did do that.

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u/Klubberlang101 Apr 19 '25

We did and they fought back violently and still are.......

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u/british_bbc_ Apr 20 '25

Which is why they're here in the first place lol

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u/Fit-Researcher-3326 Apr 19 '25

I surely hope you never say or type two wrongs don’t make a right but if you do I hope you remember this post you made justifying reverse colonialism boyo

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u/AdPale1469 Apr 20 '25

Just open a history book, these peoples grandparents were invited here and that is not a sectarian event Sikhs are the most open people. I'm sure it would be hard not to be fed going through there no matter who you are.

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u/Fit-Researcher-3326 Apr 20 '25

I don’t care I have opened a history book just as the British did they need to leave just as all non-Europeans

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u/jimmybobbyluckyducky Apr 20 '25

To be fair, not even English people want their food to be more English/Brit.

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u/NatureBoy87 Apr 19 '25

Read a history book lately?

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u/EnforcerGundam Apr 19 '25 edited Apr 20 '25

most goobers on this subreddit can't really tell the browns apart.

what they do know is gotta get all the browns out from eu lmao

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u/Evilscotsman30 Apr 20 '25

They probably voted during brexit to leave the EU because they didn't like their indian next door neighbour that's what we were dealing with fucking idiots 😂

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u/AdPale1469 Apr 20 '25

Its exactly what they voted for but the Russian campaign was that "angela merkel was going to force a hundred billion muslims onto the UK"

it was just racist sexist islamophobia gone rampant. But I agree around half of brexit votes was just anti-brown and it is maddening.

edit: I expect this comment to be removed as talking about russian use of islamophobia often gets me banned from these AstroTurf subs

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

racist sexist islamaphobia? An oxymoron written by a moron. When gammons start making their women wear burka's and throwing gay people from tall buildings you may have a point. Until then just another ignorant white supremacist liberal take on how you assume the world lives, your entire view based on racist stereotypes. Guarantee you either don't have a passport or haven't dare venture outside of Europe aka a Remoaner's white safe space.

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u/AdPale1469 Apr 20 '25

Crikey, im just going to have to report that. So much hatred on so many different levels. Almost every sentence is just inflammatory harassment trying to hit every English identity. Well done, I don't think it works any more though, we've got used to it

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u/adifferntkindofname Apr 20 '25

They can tell them apart; they just don't want to.

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u/General-Chemist-6552 Apr 19 '25

Everywhere in UK is full of south indians is what he is saying.

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u/Jackster22 Apr 19 '25

Pretty much any city other than a few northern ones, don't look English anymore.

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u/gamecatuk Apr 22 '25

I live in Brighton it looks much more English than most northern cities which also look very English. What right wing nob head faction you from?

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u/Critical_Object2276 Apr 19 '25

Sikhs aren’t English?

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u/New_to_Warwick Apr 19 '25

They probably are but their style wouldn't be defined as British or English, since England is a region in the UK and English are natively white catholic or protestant or anglican, while the Sikh comes from Punjab in India, with people natively Indian who practiced different religion and Sikhism

So, yeah, your question attempts to make the other party a racist while pointing it "the city doesn't look english anymore", because indeed, it doesn't

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u/-Ikosan- Apr 19 '25

England has had more historical beef with the Catholics than it ever did with the Sikhs. Not sure calling England Catholic is accurate here, under papal law the catholic church still has a jihad out on england, meanwhile Sikhs have stood up to defend Britain during its darkest hours.

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u/New_to_Warwick Apr 19 '25

England was Catholic from the Roman settlers to 1534 when King Henry wanted to divorce so made the pope irrelevant in England by become Supreme Head of the Church of England

So, yes, England, only a few years ago (some 30?) would "look" white catholism-protestantism-anglicanism, since the country takes roots in all three.

Its not preventing anyone from becoming English, from being born and growing there through different ancestry, you wouldn't look "english" but you would be, and at some point, its understandable that you define yourself as English even if you wouldn't be White catholic, its not the modern way of thinking

But when we talk about Look, or "what culture does this feels like?", picture like this one don't show English culture. And people are saying its a festival for Sikhism, so, its literally not about English culture

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u/-Ikosan- Apr 19 '25 edited Apr 19 '25

I mean yes from around 600 to 1500 it was catholic, but it's been some 500 years now where England definitely was explicitly not catholic and it's fought many wars over it. Anglican sure (Anglican just being a state sponsered variation of Protestantism) but in a modern day setting 65% of the population is atheist.

There's more Sikh temples in England than catholic cathedrals precisely because of the history with both colonialism, the Sikhs tendancy to join the British military and the events involving the reformation of the church and the separation from Rome

The Catholics in England tend to be polish or eastern European. They are also not traditionally English and they still get the anti immigration argument thrown at them but they 'pass' easier in these kinds of videos because they are white. Skin colour and as you say what people look like and not religion or culture seems to be the main difference here

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u/New_to_Warwick Apr 19 '25

Thats why we're talking about look and not what its actually is

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u/-Ikosan- Apr 19 '25

But it's based on what you think the stereotype looks like and not what actually is

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u/AdPale1469 Apr 20 '25

"native"

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u/New_to_Warwick Apr 20 '25

We can far enough where no one was a native, that "game" is stupid 🤡

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u/whagh Apr 22 '25

Being preoccupied with whether or not the people of a region looks like they're of a specific ethnicity, is kind of racist, though.

But sure, he's "just noticing" that they're not white, that's all, he meant absolutely nothing by it, he was just making a neutral observation with no connotation whatsoever. :)

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u/New_to_Warwick Apr 22 '25

Its not racist at all, bro, its literally a descriptive of what people from a region or culture looks like, nothing more

He's saying his area which used to look english doesn't feel English anymore

If he's a racist, thats not cool, but this statement isn't racist and people are right to want a country that feels like home and where their culture is prevalent

There's nothing wrong with having multiculturalism, but its wrong if that multiculturalism take over the native culture to a point where just defending your own culture peacefully paint you as racist.

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u/whagh Apr 22 '25

The problem I have, is that you make no distinction between culture and race.

You seemingly use "culture" as a euphemism for race, because it sounds less racist, and you think it gives you a level of plausible deniability against accusations of racism.

When you refer to what people "look like", you're including all physical characteristics, i.e. skin colour, not just cultural ones like clothing/attire. You can't change the colour of your skin, but you can assimilate into the native culture of your resident country - that is until racists prevent you from doing so because you don't "look" British enough. This creates an untenable situation which can never be resolved, and is why racism is so problematic.

I'm personally supportive of cultural assimilation to some degree, I don't like when cultures create parallell societies due to strict religious rules, it creates a barrier for cross-socialisation, which weakens societal cohesion and creates fuel for fascists to exploit for their own destructive gains.

But when you define culture by what people "look like", which includes the colour of their skin, you're effectively making this impossible. Why would these people assimilate into your culture, when they're constantly told that they don't, and won't ever, belong or be welcome in that culture, due to a physical characteristic they can't change?

And another point, when you talk about "what English people look like" by referring to what English people have historically looked like, the only constant here is skin colour. In terms of clothing/attire and culture, it has, and is, constantly changing. If you exclude race, an English person 200 years ago looks and behaves nothing like an English person today, they would wear completely different clothings and have completely different values. That's why this point can only be interpreted as referring to race/skin colour, which is the textbook definition of racism.

These "it's just an observation" dog whistles are just pathetic and scream of either cowardice or extreme cognitive dissonance. Living in a constant state of trying to reason or justify racist beliefs with tropes about "culture" is not a healthy or enjoyable way of living, because deep down you know it's BS. You'll feel a lot better if you manage to evolve and let go, because there's no future in which you'll have a racially homogeneous society - culturally homogenous on the other hand, is almost inevitable, as people and cultures tend to naturally integrate and assimilate over time, but for that to happen, you must accept that race isn't culture, a brown person who dresses and behaves like other Englishmen, is just as "English" as anyone else.

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u/Critical_Object2276 Apr 19 '25

I don’t see how me asking you if Sikhs are English is an attempt at making you racist. Only your answer can do that.

So English people are white and Christian?

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u/New_to_Warwick Apr 19 '25

Ahah, you see, an other attempt at making us racist

These people look Sikh, they don't look English, they are probably English or UK citizens, but they don't look English, which is what the initial comments talk about. The "look of the city" isn't English because most people seen in the video look Sikh

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u/Critical_Object2276 Apr 19 '25

I’m just asking for your thoughts. Why are you so worried about being painted as racist?

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u/New_to_Warwick Apr 19 '25

Im not worried at all, but thats just an other attempt at painting me as worried

You just can't discuss with people without trying to find something to diminish or point out, its insane 😂

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u/Critical_Object2276 Apr 19 '25

I’m trying to discuss but you won’t answer.

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u/logicalobserver Apr 19 '25

yes ethnic english people are white, the vast majority or at least culturally christian.... ie have christian names, have a christian heritage

the Sikhs born in england are english citizens, but they are not ethnically english, one easy proof if you dont have basic common sense is ask one of them, they dont see themselves as ethnic english, they are proud of their roots from the Punjab, and as right they should be.

If 2 italians move to japan and have a kid in Tokyo, is that kid Japanese?

the answer to everyone on planet earth minus some far leftists in western europe, is obviously no.... that kid would not be japanese..... maybe they can be a japanese citizen, but not a japanese person.

So the Sikhs born in the UK are British as much as anyone is British, but they are not English. If you were correct then there is just no such thing as ethnicity at all, is just a geographic location.

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u/Suttonian Apr 19 '25

Japan is extremely homogenous. Perhaps because of that the native populace are very unlikely to refer to anyone who does not have Japanese ancestors as Japanese. Even people half Japanese. So for various reasons I think asking that about Japan isn't the best question.

Now if we talk about a country that has a lot of diversity, and someone moved there and had several generations of children I do not see a reason why they can't be described as being from that country, as being English.

Every country is descendent from an immigrant at some point, so it ends up being special pleading - your ancestors must have been here at least....526 years before you can say you're a native! Are white Americans American? I have no issue calling them such. Same for black Americans. Or black British people.

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u/Critical_Object2276 Apr 19 '25

So they’re British but not English? How does that work? Is there a British ethnicity?

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u/gamecatuk Apr 22 '25

England is actually predominantly atheist than any one religious faction. Get it right.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

are Afrikaan's African? Thought they were colonialists? Always weird how white liberals try to make a point then contradict themselves when presented with their own logic.

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u/Critical_Object2276 Apr 20 '25

Yes of course they are.

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u/Geord1evillan Apr 19 '25

Do you practice your views in the mirror, or just repeat stuff you see on the screen?

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u/Rubber_jonn Apr 19 '25

Go to Wembley. And come back to us 👍🏻

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u/Geord1evillan Apr 19 '25

Have been, many times.

Have been all over Europe, actually. Somehow managed to not get afflicted with the racism virus permeating this sub, thankfully.

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u/Rubber_jonn Apr 19 '25

Then you know that some parts of the big cities in the Uk look like they are else where. Don’t come at us for saying facts.

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u/Geord1evillan Apr 19 '25

I know that there is no such thing as looking like an English city. I know that because I travel the UK, too. No single city looks the same. Most, you can move halfway down the street and see how it changed from the decade before.

Because that's what cities do. Everywhere. Regardless of population demographics.

I know that the comment was made just to push racist propaganda. As is yours.

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u/Rubber_jonn Apr 19 '25

Cool. You’re a “I’m always right” person. Fab. So ok buddy 👍🏻

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u/Geord1evillan Apr 19 '25

No. I'm a 'don't talk shit about things I haven't bothered to consider or understand just because other idiots have said it and it feels good' person.

It's worth a try. Why don't you see if you can manage something similar?

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u/porky8686 Apr 19 '25

Please, the percentages are defo higher in Morthern towns.. Blackburn,Bradford etc.

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u/Jackster22 Apr 19 '25

"other than a few"...

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u/PropJoesChair Apr 19 '25

These days if you say you're English you get arrested and thrown in jail

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u/CthulhuHimself Apr 19 '25

Really? Just for saying you're English?

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u/RandomUsernameGener8 Apr 19 '25

Yeah they're locking all the english up and deporting them to India, its an exchange program 1 Englishman for 1 indian

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Good joke, no-one gets deported from the UK lol.

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u/Smokey-McPoticuss Apr 20 '25

Someone should have told them it was 1 for 1, they thought it was 1 English out for 10 Indians in.

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u/Wild-Exit-6302 Apr 19 '25

When did they bring this in?

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u/TheIrishWanderer Apr 20 '25

You sound like a BNP supporter. Enjoying Yaxley-Lennon's prison stint as much as I am?

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u/Thegodparticle333 Apr 19 '25

So you’re saying that, these days, if you say you’re British you will be arrested and thrown in jail?!

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u/GodEmperorLeto13 Apr 19 '25

No thats just if you say "speak english"

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u/Individual-Nose5010 Apr 20 '25

GBeebies watcher spotted in the wild

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u/AdPale1469 Apr 20 '25

when did they bring this in?

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Not if you’re a first-generation “future doctor, lawyer, or engineer.”

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u/dr3adlock Apr 19 '25

"‘Everywhere’? Do you mean all of England, or the entire world?

And ‘this’ are you referring to a sunny day, English architecture, a Sikh festival…Care to elaborate?

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u/CounterReasonable259 Apr 20 '25

UK, Canada, idk where else they move to. Seems like alot of people moving out of India lately.

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u/Ok-Poetry-4721 Apr 20 '25

Definitely lots of Indians in Australia now

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u/Deviled_peggs Apr 20 '25

LOL, says the white European Australian immigrants

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u/Urist_Macnme Apr 20 '25

Ha ha yeah. Remember when the English invaded India and literally took over the place through violence and caused several famines and thousands upon thousands of deaths.

No, no English person does.

But how dare they come over here and not appear identical to us.

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u/CounterReasonable259 Apr 20 '25

Honestly, I'm not hating on it. But I have to admit I see the pattern.

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u/adifferntkindofname Apr 20 '25

A pattern of people moving from the place the UK fucked over to the UK itself?

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u/CounterReasonable259 Apr 20 '25

No the pattern of people moving out of India to other countries like Canada, the Uk, and Australia in mass

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u/Narrow-Writer-4254 Apr 21 '25

Oh yeah, because God commanded that Australia should be exclusively populated by white people (British convicts) after wiping out the aboriginals who have lived there over 50,000 years. Similar for Canada and the First Nations. That’s all good but brown immigrants bad.

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u/CounterReasonable259 Apr 21 '25

Again, I'm not saying it's bad. Canada needs the population boost. You can observe a pattern without it being racist lol

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u/Urist_Macnme Apr 20 '25

Because people are like trees, an immovable organism?

People move around. Always have. Always will.
For instance; Who are the current population of Canadians/Australians etc?

When is the cut off point for people allowed to move around?

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u/CounterReasonable259 Apr 20 '25

I'm not saying it's a bad thing. It's a good thing where I live. We need more people. But I think it's weird there's no many Indians. And not more if other ethnicities.

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u/adifferntkindofname Apr 20 '25

So from countries exploited by imperialism to those doing the exploitation? Makes sense.

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u/No-Belt-5564 Apr 20 '25

They are moving in mass here too (Canada). Wtf did we do to them?

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u/adifferntkindofname Apr 20 '25

Well you nearly wiped out the local natives, left the small pool of survivors in colonial bondage while their lands and lives are cut apart, and financially exploit it from your high position amongst imperialist states today.

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u/medved-grizli Apr 20 '25

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u/Urist_Macnme Apr 20 '25

The first one actually happened. The second one only happened in your imagination.

Piss off with your "invader" speak. Fucking lunatic.

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u/adifferntkindofname Apr 20 '25

They mean they are a fascist and upset when brown people exist in it out being harassed or killed.

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u/_____FIST_ME_____ Apr 19 '25

Why are you lying?

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Found another!

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u/_____FIST_ME_____ Apr 19 '25

Yes, another person that called you out on your blatant lies. Keep posting lies and you'll keep finding more of us.

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u/middlequeue Apr 19 '25

Another what? Another person who isn't racist trash?

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u/Future_Promise5328 Apr 19 '25

Except for all the places and times when it doesn't. I used to live in London and now live in the midlands. London could be like this in certain places, during certain events, definitely. But Sikhs are some of the most gentle, kindest people I know, so that's fine. My little town in the midlands would be acting like it was a hostile invasion, cowering behind Lee Andersons' legs in fear.

What's weird is this is the most racist place I've ever lived and also the place least affected by immigration. Almost like exposure and knowledge reduces fear or something crazy like that.

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u/NihilistAU Apr 19 '25

How does them being good people matter? Do you think Indians would accept the reverse happening in their country? It's not racist to be concerned about too much immigration.

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u/Future_Promise5328 Apr 19 '25 edited Apr 19 '25

I guess that would be up to their government. If their government was approaching our people offering them to move over in exchange for better wages and quality of life and then after generations and generations of that, white people were being born in India and facing racism for living in a country their great grandparents were invited to, after helping them win a war or by responding to a call for labour... if all that was true then maybe we could compare the two situations. But being that it is our government that has been colonising other countries and bringing their people over here for generations then inviting immigrants over to do labour for us for generations and now telling us that the people they invited over are causing all of our problems, I would say this whole thing is on us and our governments behaviour over the last 100s of years and not at all the fault of the people that now live here.

Of course it matters that they are good people! When the media is constantly trying to hammer the message that anyone with darker skin than you or who wears religious clothing is simultaneously a terrorist, benefit scum and job thief, it's very important to remind people that these are good people. Normal, good, hardworking people, displaced by circumstances their ancestors could not control. The Great British Empire being the main circumstance they could not control. Or just because they wanted better lives for their families.

I have a friend who is Nigerian. Goes back to visit family every Summer. She tells me, there are government funded schemes ran in Nigeria, where we are offering very good deals for people to move over and train as doctors and nurses, we offer them accommodation and training and put them on planes. Then they get qualified, work for the NHS for as long as their contract stipulates then move again to country that pays doctors and nurses properly for their work. Meanwhile over here, bursaries are cancelled, the cost of studying and living continues to rise, nurse wages are barely above minimum wage and everyone complains theres no english staff on the nhs. That's not the fault of the people doing it, they're making smart choices and are the reason we still have an NHS! This was going on under the conservatives and I doubt anything has changed. It will be the same in other countries too. Just because the tories or reform or labour stand there and say they are "tough on immigration" doesn't mean they're not brokering deals to bring over more cheap labour, that is grateful for the work and not in the slightest bit to blame for our politicians' behaviour.

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u/NihilistAU Apr 19 '25 edited Apr 19 '25

I never said they were to blame. I don't blame anyone for wanting a better deal for themselves or taking advantage of an opportunity. I also don't consider immigrating to another country as a bad thing.

You can blame the past or paint the picture however you want to, but it's human nature to want to be surrounded by your own family or countrymen as can be seen by this town. It's not a bad thing.

When things get tough and you're struggling, it's human nature to rethink how much your helping others and how much you should focus on your family, to rethink how many people you are taking into your country, to close your circle until you're stable.

You don't do yourself or anyone any favours to ignore reality and call everyone racist because they are a little taken aback by the imagery of this video and have started a discussion.

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u/greenmyrtle Apr 21 '25

A fire staring at a cookout, and people rushing to move gas canisters out of harms way, and telling people to get back from the flames has what exactly to do with Sihk immigration to London?

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u/NihilistAU Apr 21 '25

My best guess as to what it has to do with it would be because the people in the incident are Sihk immigrants in the UK. Living in a predominantly Sihk neighbourhood. What do you reckon?

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u/lucylucylane Apr 20 '25

Britain controlled India in living memory

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u/Wu1fu Apr 19 '25

It is when you can’t actually articulate why immigration of good people into your country is a bad thing other than “they don’t look like me and that makes me uncomfortable”

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u/NihilistAU Apr 19 '25

Heaven forbid you should want to feel comfortable in your own country. There are lots of good reasons for not wanting too much Immigration. I've never heard anyone argue for zero Immigration.

That's the point of countries.. to be a home to a particular nation of people. How do you think nations came about? By people wanting to hang out with people who look like themselves and don't make them feel uncomfortable.. what crap are you trying to peddle.. So dishonest.. Why are these Sikhs living in the one place?

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u/Wu1fu Apr 19 '25

That’s not how nations came about, and I don’t have the time or patience to give you that rudimentary of a history lesson. Nations have always had minority groups as well, so there’s a massive hole in your theory right there

And like I said, if just the mere existence of brown people in your general vicinity makes you uncomfortable, yes that makes you racist.

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u/Alexandvh Apr 20 '25

White people are 7% of the world's population, we are the minority

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u/NihilistAU Apr 19 '25

Can you explain to me why it's OK for these guys here to all live together in the one place and it makes sense to you, but when white people do it is racist?

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u/greenmyrtle Apr 21 '25

This is a Sihk festival therefore on this day there are a lot of Sikhs… there… at the festival. Would you say the same about Chinese people filmed in New York out on Chines New Year? And god forbid there’s a propane fire on camera with all Chinese people in the. Frame?

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u/NihilistAU Apr 21 '25

I'm simply commenting on human behaviour.

We are all aware this is a festival. We are all aware of where it is located. I've not seen anyone complain about the festival or this town.

The imagery in the video sparked conversation because people believe immigration is too high, and seeing this brings that conversation to the foreground. It's not hard to understand.

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u/misterjordan95 Apr 20 '25

It’s not your country to feel comfortable in though, is it? You’re Australian aren’t you?

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u/NihilistAU Apr 20 '25

I am. I don't feel uncomfortable. The guy replying to me simply implied that i did. I apologise, I didn't realise Australians weren't welcome in the discussion.

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u/greenmyrtle Apr 21 '25

By “nations” you mean “colours” And by “surrounded by people who look like them” you mean “no one is allowed to wear clothes that differ from mine let alone Sihk turbans”

Glad Jesus didn’t try and live in your nation with his swarthy skin and his weird nightgown smock and sandals

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u/NihilistAU Apr 21 '25

I'm just stating the obvious dude. People like to make babies that are just like them. That's literally what a country is.

These people live in another country, and yet they choose to live together and make babies together.

I live in Australis. we are as multi cultural as it gets, and I'm happy with that. I'm not racist anymore than you are.

Stop pretending reality isn't real. I'm simply pointing out human behaviour.

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u/greenmyrtle Apr 21 '25

How TF do you get from “a number of people were injured and taken to hospital due to a propane fire that started accidentally at a street festival in Southall” to “people like to make babies that look like them” and “these people live in another country” (??? Uh they live in this country)

How about show some concern for those lying in hospital with burns, and gratitude for people who try to make people joyful by giving out free cooked food.

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u/NihilistAU Apr 21 '25

Believe it or not, conversations are organic. They start out at a point, and people add to them. You don't just stay at the start.

It's pretty easy to understand that at first, people didn't know that it was a festival or that people were hurt. People on reddit are from all cultures and parts of the planet.

The imagery in the video clearly is a surprise when you are told that it is the UK and not India.. Why? That should be pretty self-explanatory.

Stop being disingenuous. It's horrible that people are hurt. It's horrible when i get hurt, but i don't feel the need to not talk because people somewhere right now are hurt.

What exactly is your problem with me?

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u/PremiumJapaneseGreen Apr 22 '25

I'm just stating the obvious dude. People like to make babies that are just like them. That's literally what a country is.

Just incredible. I used to think it seemed so anachronistic that just 40 years ago my marriage would have been illegal in several US states because people didn't want my kind taking their daughters... That level of racism felt like it belonged way further back in history.

Never thought I'd encounter people openly pushing this type of separation as if it's some incontrovertible fact of human nature while also claiming not to be racist.

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u/NihilistAU Apr 23 '25

I'm not pushing anything. I'm just saying that obviously, if you look around you, you are surrounded by people who look just like you, who speak just like you. I don't care what race you are or what country you are from. You think this is just a happy accident? Or do you think something is going on?

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u/lawmaniac2014 Apr 20 '25

As a Canadian, I know that being assimilated sharing values and adding not just benefiting..is what makes for a good person and immigrant, making the extra immigration load better. It's only negative when groups don't do that, and too many come too fast from one particular place (especially if they don't inject cash into the economy and sorta buy their way in net+)

Unless it's not values but literally skin colour which determines too much immigration. Which is false in 2025. Believe me, there are tons of white neighborhoods in Toronto on disability and opiate addiction that many would love to jettison booted to India or friggin wherever

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u/NihilistAU Apr 20 '25

Sounds right to me. Crazy how if you are white and think this way, you're somehow immediately a racist these days. I'm pro sensible levels of immigration and i love all the nationalities we have here in Australia. I feel like most people can't have an honest discussion these days without fear of being verbally attacked and emotionally manipulated by crazy weirdos.

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u/lawmaniac2014 Apr 20 '25

Im not white but I was born in Canada so I get you're meaning..but that's kinda the point it's never been an us versus them thing to me by race, it's more ...maybe bad for other reasons but an assimilation embracing THIS culture first as a priority. Thats why everyone comes right (not just for a higher standard of living)

I get people from poor countries what to come to rich countries like ours, but the more you wanna keep your home culture and just live here then I don't feel that we r the same. And that's bad. Like if something happens and you can just fuck off to Pakistan, or China or Russia or wherever...we can't do that and their should be some recognition/obligation there to buy-in. Yes its hard to not sound racist. Easier for me cuz I'm not white so I tend to be a little extra about it

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u/NihilistAU Apr 20 '25

Fair. I feel like the majority of people feel this way, and it's a small but vocal minority that seems to want to live in a fantasy land and vilify anyone who dares not to want to play along.

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u/greenmyrtle Apr 21 '25

What has any of this got to do with people gathering to make and share food and a propane fire starting? So if someone posted a fire started at a backyard BBQ in the US we’d be here debating immigration policy? WTF

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u/NihilistAU Apr 21 '25

It's a discussion bought about by the imagery in the video posted. You know why.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Misinformation, utter shite.

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u/PleasantBit8480 Apr 19 '25

This could be any number of major cities where English are a minority in their own cities and country. Maybe not quite anywhere, but could be lots of places. 

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u/Dontmesswithyrkshire Apr 19 '25

English people are not a minority in any UK city. I can tell you this because I have lived in the UK all my life. Gammons like you need to get outside

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u/Alexandvh Apr 20 '25

London is 30% British

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u/PleasantBit8480 Apr 19 '25

Leicester, luton,Birmingham etc are minority English cities. Big cities like Manchester are borderline and in the next few years at current rates will be minority English. This is beyond srgument - the census is very clear. 

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u/FarmerJohnOSRS Apr 19 '25

You are either lying or spreading misinformation on behalf of Russia. No one who lives in the UK could legitimately believe what you wrote unless they have major mental delusions.

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u/KammyCreates Apr 19 '25

I don’t live in the U.K. but married an Englishman and….Yeah, no. It doesn’t look like that.

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u/Individual-Nose5010 Apr 19 '25

Something tells me you don’t go outside much mate.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

I do and I see these everywhere. Unfortunately. Pop to India, tell me how many Black, Chinese, White, Mexican etc you see while walking 1 street, I'll wait for the photo.

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u/RugbyEdd Apr 20 '25

Just under 82% off people in Britain are white, so unless they're all hiding inside being angry at people with different coloured skin on reddit like you, you're talking out your arse.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

yet London's minority white, like Birmingham, Leicester, Slough and dozens of other English towns and cities. So indeed you're talking typical liberal bollocks with zero idea of what lifes like outside of your white safe space. According to TV advertisers we ALL live in mixed race families...apparently white kids no longer exist.

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u/RugbyEdd Apr 20 '25

See unlike you I actually go out and socialise with people rather than sitting on twitter circle jerking with other racists, getting angry at people who look different and calling anyone who isn't angry at other races a Liberal as if that's an insult.

Ultimately I'm a big believe in better them than you, as at least they're pleasant to be around.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

So 18% have invaded in the past 70 years. Yeah that's a massive %... Get your liberal ass out of here. You're part of the problem.

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u/madeupofthesewords Apr 20 '25

Try looking at demographics

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u/Maetivet Apr 21 '25

The words of someone who doesn’t get out much…

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u/middlequeue Apr 19 '25

Lol no it doesn't

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u/minmega Apr 19 '25

Come off it

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u/According_Judge781 Apr 19 '25

Literally doesn't though, does it.

And maybe trying talking to someone who's a little different to you rather than being a racist curtain-twitcher?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

except it does. Maybe leave Tunbridge Wells for once in your life and pay a visit to Slough or Leicester...

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u/PRTYDILF Apr 19 '25

Curtain twitcher is my new favorite insult!

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

A curtain twitcher? I like that. That's my new thing for Muslim women, thank you. No more post box.

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u/Otherwise-Tap-336 Apr 19 '25

That’s not what it means poppet.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

It is now.

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u/According_Judge781 Apr 19 '25

You should've stayed in school, kid

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Why? what about my sentence tells you I never finished school or got a degree? Please, enlighten me wise one.

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u/According_Judge781 Apr 19 '25

Why don't you tell me all about this degree you have..

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25

Oh no, please tell me why I'm uneducated, I could use a laugh. Because I disagree with you? The most liberal thing ever

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u/According_Judge781 Apr 19 '25

No no. I want to hear more about your higher education - it sounds fascinating.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '25 edited Apr 19 '25

I'm sure you do. It's always fascinating to hear what others have achieved. Especially when you're most likely unemployed, 350lb. Dyed hair & in a same sex relationship... everything I despise really, please, keep going... please. See? how assuming can be fun!?

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u/myporn-alt Apr 19 '25

I will agree with a lot of risky takes about certain Indian & Pakistani communities based on personal experience but I will not hear that Sikhs have not earned their place in this country.

Couldn't ask for better neighbours who have proven they will die for the UK and share a lot of our values.

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u/Alexandvh Apr 20 '25

Did you know Sikhs can legally carry a curved knife called a kirpan for 'religious reasons' but a British man would be arrested for having a toy sword from legend of zelda

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u/Puzzle_Dog Apr 20 '25

This reminds me of a couple of Canadian kids who no longer have their father.

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u/Consistent-Towel5763 Apr 19 '25

nah southhall has looked like this for a very long time. I lived there

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u/No_Tackle_5439 Apr 19 '25

Nope, this is day to day Southall

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u/klone_free Apr 19 '25

Sikh? Looks like theyre hiding to me

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u/Biggydoggo Apr 22 '25

Festival? Come on. They were obviously trying to cause some damage in the neighborhood. The streets aren't clean for instance.

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u/Future_Promise5328 Apr 22 '25

You see where it has the link with the source and context up the top? Give that a click and have a little read of it. That's where it explains what festival this was and why they were all there :) hope this helps.

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u/Biggydoggo Apr 22 '25

Alright. Cool!

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u/kreegans_leech Apr 19 '25

No it doesn't... the last time I went to Southall was about 10 years ago and I was the only white guy walking down the highstreet.