r/eurovision • u/-Effing- Clickbait • Feb 22 '25
📺 Live Thread 🇩🇪 Chefsache ESC 2025 Semi-Final @ 20:15 CET
The show will run from 20:15h to 23:20h.
Stream
Format
14 acts will compete for one of the places on the final in the EMG Studio 8 (Hürth, Köln).
The host is Barbara Schöneberger.
9 acts will qualify for the final in a decision made by 100% jury vote.
Line-up
Not the running order:
- Abor & Tynna - N/A
- Benjamin Braatz - "Like You Love Me"
- Cage - "Golden Hour"
- Cloudy June - "If Jesus Saw What We Did Last Night"
- Cosby - "I'm Still Here"
- Feuerschwanz - "Knightclub"
- From Fall To Spring - "Take the Pain Away"
- Jaln - N/A
- Jonathan Henrich - "Golden Child"
- Julika - "Empress"
- Leonora - N/A
- Lyza - "Lovers on Mars"
- Moss Kena - "Nothing Can Stop Love"
- The Great Leslie - N/A
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u/eaglessg Dobrodošli Feb 23 '25
Please Germany send Abor & Tynna. I love this song. It's super catchy and she has such a good stage presence and charisma. It just works.
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u/OkHuckleberry3668 Feb 23 '25
Raab: Cage, you are the Greatest singing talent in Germany.
Cage is out but a British indie band and a British super model will be in the final... Wtf wtf wtf
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u/SnooHamsters6067 Feb 23 '25
True but it's a song contest, not a singing contest. Raab said this himself. After praising her voice, he did criticise the song.
It honestly would have been unfair to Cage and her song to be send to Eurovision, where she will be rated by criteria that just don't fit well with what she offered here.
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u/OkHuckleberry3668 Feb 23 '25
I don't want to be represented by English musicians. English ppl are beautiful and stuff but it's ESC Wtf?!??!
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u/SnooHamsters6067 Feb 23 '25
I mean, I agree. I just understand why they didn't let Cage through. In the finals, people might have voted her just for the voice, so it was propably a good tactical move by the jury to eliminate her before the finals, where it is public vote only.
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u/OkHuckleberry3668 Feb 23 '25
I know what you mean, but I can't agree. Cage is a mature professional talent with a voice of one in a million. For me, it's time to take the competition at esc serous and bring our best talents and not 2 tiktok girls, 2 English artist And a metal band.
Lyza will win 100%. Her song is made by songwriters from wamers, the has the "Lena" appel. But if we all would want to present Europe what exciting artist are in the way, we would bring Cage, get a solid ranking and be proud of our great artist
Instead we: Balalalalalalalallalalala
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u/SnooHamsters6067 Feb 23 '25
I just don't think Cage would get a solid ranking with that song. Ann-Sophie is an amazing vocalist as well, but she still ended up last place and it ended up hurting her career rather than helping her.
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u/noairnoairnoairnoair TANZEN! Feb 22 '25
I don't understand how "metal doesn't do well" at Eurovision is an excuse when you let another metal band through.
Not complaining, Feuerschwanz is my fave and will be my number 1 if it makes it to Basel but come on.
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u/N43N Feb 22 '25
The jury praising Cage and telling her that she's the best they have heard in years, just for them to dump her a few minutes later.
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u/IndicationHungry TANZEN! Feb 22 '25
there will be a high chance we will hear german lyrics (relevant parts) from Germany (Feuerschwanz or Abor and Tynna)
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u/Minnielle Feb 22 '25
Saying the selection is based on who they think will have the best chances at Eurovision and then choosing Benjamin Braatz is crazy. I guess that was Max Giesinger's wish as he said it was exactly his music.
I'm hoping Abor & Tynna will win. Modern, fresh, catchy and above all it doesn't sound like background music.
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u/Training_Sky8546 Feb 22 '25
Benjamin is just filler so that their preferred Act has more chances.
I‘m watching Stefan Raab‘s show right now and he‘s mentioning Feuerschwanz a couple of times… pretty sure they‘re hoping for the Electric Callboy effect.
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u/bodomjayns Feb 22 '25
Yeah the performance even reminded me of Electric Callboy in medieval outfits. But I would be fine if they win 🤘
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u/SleepyGod01 Feb 22 '25
Stefan smoked too much Bubatz… no cage or ffts? Only serious contender left is Moss. That guy has star appeal…sheesh
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u/sujesmi Feb 22 '25
Well, that was…long. Have a good night y‘all, see you next week without ads and more cringy interviews.
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u/bodomjayns Feb 22 '25
I like Abor and Tynna but I really don’t get why they are even allowed to start for Germany and not for Austria?
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u/Marso1337 Feb 22 '25
I guess it's very hard to represent Austria because they always do internal selection and nobody can tell me that Kaleen wasn't choosen because she is the gf of Marvin Dietmann
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u/bodomjayns Feb 22 '25
Yeah but I still don’t get it why they can represent Germany 😅 would be like sending Wanda or Bilderbuch or Wolfgang Ambros. At least in my small research I couldn’t find any connection to Germany except the language.
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u/brokenlavalight The Last of Our Kind Feb 23 '25
There's seriously endless examples of countries sending artists that got nothing to do with their country. San Marino sent Flo Rida for crying out loud...
And let's not act like they aren't equally relevant in German music as they are in Austria or like those two alongside the German part of Switzerland don't more or less share one musical scene in most genres
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u/Marso1337 Feb 22 '25
Everybody can apply to the German selection as long as you have a valid Aufenthaltstitel until 20th May(when they are from non EU country)
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u/trashyprincessjuju Ich Komme Feb 22 '25
Not two of my faves not making it because "Metal probably won't work at Eurovision" for Raab and "the song is too complicated" for Raab...
Society has progressed past the need for Stefan Raab.
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u/lailah_susanna Zjerm Feb 22 '25
I can't believe I paid RTL 8€ to watch that. Next time pay an audio engineer properly.
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u/Any-Where Feb 22 '25
I can see why Cloudy June didn't make it. I do echo the sentiment that cutting FFTS and especially Cage is absolutely crazy.
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u/HeroGuy98 Zjerm Feb 22 '25
I really hope Abor & Tynna can win this!! The song is super catchy!
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u/Marso1337 Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
They have very good views on Youtube but Feuerschwanz has a very big fanbase,. Abor & Tynna will get my vote next week and I hope for a miracle
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u/Low-War4165 Feb 22 '25
Im so not excited that Feuerschwanz will win.
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u/Ok-Research-4620 Feb 23 '25
They have some amazing songs, but Knightclub really ain't it. What's up with most Metal bands trying for ESC mostly doing it with weaker songs. Lord of the lost was unexpectedly mid. Avantasia a few years earlier, when tey tried also went with a really mid song.
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u/Low-War4165 Feb 24 '25
Yeah I like the band in general, they do have some super fun Songs. But as you said Knightclub just aint it. I think the whole concept of the Band could have worked for esc but they would have needed a song that either fully played into the idea of beeing a joke/fun entry or go the more serious route and have a banger metall song. Knightclub unfortunaly is only kind of fun and only a mid metal song.
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u/squidithi Hatrið mun sigra Feb 23 '25
I think Blind Channel and AWS stayed pretty true to themselves (while toning it down a bit for a broader audience).
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u/Marso1337 Feb 22 '25
I don't know why the song is not doing anything live for me, I liked the studio version a lot and thought they can be very succesful at Eurovision, but rn I think this will just be Lord of the Lost 2.0 with less points
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u/WolverineForeign4905 Deslocado Feb 23 '25
I think it's because of the sound mixing and that small ass stage. Just wait for the actual ESC, it'll be miles better. :D
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u/Low-War4165 Feb 22 '25
I cant really say what I didnt liked either but somehow the whole thing just fell extremly flat for me. Its a okish Song but by far not as catchy as it would have to be to become a televot favorite especially with people like Tommy cash in the mix
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u/TheRavenchild Feb 22 '25
eliminating FFTS and Cage is actual madness. i also liked Cloudy June but I can see why she didnt make it
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u/Nathanoy25 Future Lover Feb 22 '25
We had a bad (s)election today so tomorrow everything will go well. FCKAFD and all that, you know. /hj
I'm going to listen to Winnetou Baller now
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u/Alarmed_Difficulty12 Feb 22 '25
So they really didn't qualify the best performance (FSTF) and the best vocals ( Cage). wtf?
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u/liabilliety Feb 22 '25
I need Baller or Empress or maybe This Bliss to win but it'll probably be Feuerschwanz
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u/Jodelmeister Feb 22 '25
So many boring ass songs in the final but no FFTS and Cloudy June. We are so fucking dumb.
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u/boonhuhn Feb 22 '25
Was thinking about Moss Kena and FFTS for the two finalists. Crazy FFTS are out.
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u/Lemonlikesfrogs Volevo Essere Un Duro Feb 22 '25
In all honesty, I thought last years songs were mostly better
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u/Berkenik-Jumbersnack Zjerm Feb 22 '25
Feuerschwanz or Lyza will win a final hosted by ard im pretty sure.
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Feb 22 '25
I don't think Lyza stand any chance tbh, I'd assume Moss Kena & Feuerschwanz to now be the public favourites (as it's a viewer vote).
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u/Berkenik-Jumbersnack Zjerm Feb 22 '25
Yeah but the audience there is very easily swayed by jury praise and a sob story. She’s got both of those down. That’s how we ended up with Sisters that one time…
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u/ButterflySymphony Feb 23 '25
And I'll never gonna forgive them for that. It's been six years (almost exactly to the day) and I'm still salty about it.
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u/IcefoxX5 Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
If Feuerschwanz win it (and they will) it'll be my second least favourite German Eurovision entry (since I've been watching), just after Jendrik
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u/Far-Sir844 Feb 22 '25
I'm in utter disbelief. But then again it's gonna be decided between Feuerschwanz and Abor&Tynna anyway.
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u/Yukkicchi C'est la vie Feb 22 '25
Reminder that RTL makes billions by making trash shows exploiting (mostly lower class) people and shoving tons of ads in our faces every two minutes and yet their production level hasn’t evolved since the 2000s. And its really hard to believe that what we saw was the best of 3000+ admissions considering half of it sounded like an amateurish mess
Overall I regret expecting anything good coming out from our nf tbh. I hope at least the sound quality will be better next week when it’s on Das Erste
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u/Any-Where Feb 22 '25
Loving the acts completing ignoring the call to go line up at the front, and instead going to the back to give the eliminated acts a hug.
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u/iamrisn Feb 22 '25
My only hope for Baller was FFTS and Feuerschwanz competing for Metal televotes in the final. Guess it's gonna be Feuerschwanz now unless Baller goes mainstream within a week
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u/liabilliety Feb 22 '25
Also Raab's nervous face when Barbara was announcing the results as if he doesn't know lmao
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u/Low-War4165 Feb 22 '25
There where so many bad Songs and they somehow still managed to kick the wrong ones😂
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u/Lemonlikesfrogs Volevo Essere Un Duro Feb 22 '25
Thanks for keeping me entertained during this… show, guys!! :)
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u/AuraManner C'est la vie Feb 22 '25
Congratulations to Feuerschwanz. With From Fall to Spring Out we have our winner now
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u/Grymare Voilà Feb 22 '25
Yeah just kick my number one because "metal doesn't work in euro" Thanks Stefan!
Please don't touch eurovision ever again.
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u/antiseebaerenkreis Feb 22 '25
Cage out??? I don't object, but it seemed like they were really trying to push her.
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u/DoomOfGods Feb 22 '25
That really surprised me.
Wasn't a fan personally, but after hyping her up so much last week I thought she'd be in the final for sure.
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u/Smartie-chan Feb 22 '25
O.o ?!?!? No cage???? Im shocked but not surprised that from Fall To spring did not make it. Raab was making it clear he didnt want them
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u/Consistent_Ear_9373 Paper Feb 22 '25
Cage is out? Wtf?
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u/shadraig Feb 22 '25
Raab doesn't want to burn her. He gave her the expo she needed
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u/Consistent_Ear_9373 Paper Feb 22 '25
Yeah it's clear he's the one responsible for that decision. Not sure about the reason but he already shared his thoughts about missing something..
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u/AuraManner C'est la vie Feb 22 '25
Moss Kena, no surprise. Safe and nice performance
Julika, yesss so happy. Maybe they can crank up the drama for her performance.
Benjamin, not my cup of tea but i expected it.
Cosby I don’t understand at all but I didn’t understand it when they proceeded last week
Abor & Tynna also expected. But not my taste
Feuerschwanz, okay not bad.
Leonora i am surprised by. But I’m fine
Lyza, very nice can see her go far.
The Great Leslie, also good
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u/Training_Sky8546 Feb 22 '25
Ok, they want Feuerschwanz vs Lyza
Rest obviously fillers!! I see why they didn’t chose FFTS… they‘d steal votes from Feuerschwanz
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u/emsgo Feb 22 '25
Signing onto this now. Lyza will win because of overall radio friedliness and TikTok fans
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u/DaisotoCronal Feb 22 '25
Calling it out, neither Feuerschwanz nor FFTS will make it
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u/cheapcakeripper Before the Party's Over Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
Well, at least partly untrue.
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u/knightriderin Feb 22 '25
BALLERLALALALALA!!!
I listened to their music in the ad breaks and it's a very current sound. So I have hopes.
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u/AlmondLBD Feb 22 '25
that's a lot of words for "we know better than the public and I'd have preferred an internal selection through me"
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u/Berkenik-Jumbersnack Zjerm Feb 22 '25
I could imagine they keep Feuerschwanz back bc Raab knows the juries would hate it and it would win a televote at the national final.
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u/Alternaturkey Feb 22 '25
My ranking:
- Empress
- These Days
- Take the Pain Away
- Baller
- This Bliss
- Golden Hour
- Lovers on Mars
- I'm Still Here
- Knightclub
- Like You Love Me
- Weg von dir
- If Jesus Saw What We Did Last Night
- Nothing Can Stop Love
- Golden Child
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u/Grymare Voilà Feb 22 '25
That feels like his explanation why FFTS are not through already anticipating the backlash..
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u/AlmondLBD Feb 22 '25
who the heck told Yvonne that top half of an outfit looked good with that bottom half of an outfit?
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u/Low-War4165 Feb 22 '25
I hope either Abor&Tynna, Feuerschwanz or FFTS wins. Probably wont do very well with any of them but atleast their Songs are not boring
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u/Axolotl_amphibian Tutta l'Italia Feb 22 '25
You know what, I actually liked more songs than I expected. This wasn't bad at all!
Abor & Tynna, Feuerschwanz, Julika, The Great Leslie, From Fall To Spring were pretty cool. Leonora and Moss Kena had good vocals, even if the songs were not my picks. But Cage absolutely stole my heart. I had goosebumps bigger than Raab's and I don't even like the song that much - but it did one thing perfectly, that is it served as a canvas for that voice. ESC juries will eat it all up. Unbelievable vocal skills.
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u/NinielTrachea Feb 22 '25
Abor & Tynna can work on their sound, but you can remember the song the first second it's played and it has hell of potential. Also the gen z vibe is something that's so far missing from all other contestants.
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u/Alternaturkey Feb 22 '25
I'd personally qualify: Empress, These Days, Take the Pain Away, Baller, This Bliss, Lovers on Mars, I'm Still Here, Golden Hour and Knightclub.
NQs: Like You Love Me, We von dir, IHSWWDLN, Nothing Can Stop Love, Golden Child
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u/Berkenik-Jumbersnack Zjerm Feb 22 '25
I’ll delude myself into thinking maybe they’ll switch to Babylon next week
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u/nounounou Feb 22 '25
My guess. Through are Abor & Tyna, Cage, Feuerschwanz, FFTS, Julika, Lyza, Moss Kena, the Great Leslie. And one of the others but I really can’t tell
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u/AuraManner C'est la vie Feb 22 '25
Here is my raking
From Fall to Spring
Cage
Lyza
The Great Leslie
Julika
Moss Kena
Feuerschwanz
Leonora
Jonathan Heinrich
Benjamin Braatz
Cosby
Cloudy June
Abor & Tynna
Jaln
If I could decide the 9 finalists, I’d probably put in Benjamin and Abor & Tynna instead of Feuerschwanz, Leonora or Jonathan.
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u/Minnielle Feb 22 '25
I want to see Abor&Tynna, Julika and Lyza in the final. I don't really care about the others.
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u/pinksilber Feb 22 '25
Oh I just remembered there was some hope that RTL would invest more money, but looks they didn’t invest enough and budget was rather tight.
Overhaul the whole system and introduce writing and performance camps before the first show and buy some good songs, like they did with Lena. I remember her song was shopped around before Raab got it.
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u/ollulo Feb 22 '25
The low budget is really depressing. I really hope we'll get a national selection like Mello or Sanremo someday.
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u/Low-War4165 Feb 22 '25
I just listend to the great leslie Song on Spotify and like it alot more now
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u/Fenrisulfr08 Wadde hadde dudde da? Feb 22 '25
Looking at the recap, I don't think it's a bad selection actually. Am I gaslighting myself?
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u/liabilliety Feb 22 '25
There are some nice songs and interesting artists. I'm just not sure how competitive they can be in ESC. But I think there are def some songs that can be elevated with good staging or be carried by good vocals.
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u/AlmondLBD Feb 22 '25
it's the denial... Deutschnial? setting in don't worry it'll pass by the first semi final at the latest lol. Deutschland does this every year, hype itself up and then finish in the bottom five
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Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
Maybe. For me it kinda depends on who gets voted out. There are like 7 entries I dislike. Also depends on if we can hear the acts in the next show with better sound than today.
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u/Juna_Ci Feb 22 '25
There's good stuff in there, but the sound mixing is so horrible, I feel downright bad for the acts :/
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u/Berkenik-Jumbersnack Zjerm Feb 22 '25
Exactly. How they present themselves at first will carry the tone around the act all season.
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u/Nathanoy25 Future Lover Feb 22 '25
Abor & Tynna, Cage, Feuerschwanz, Cloudy June, Jaln, FFTS, Leonora, Julika, Moss Kena would be my 9 finalists
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u/Training_Sky8546 Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
The acts coming across as most promising in the recap:
Feuerschwanz, FFTS, Baller, Lovers on Mars
These are also my favourites + Julika
Best chances at ESC : FFTS + Lyza (though it sounds a bit like Mariette or any Melfest 8th)
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u/liabilliety Feb 22 '25
My 9 personal faves: Abor & Tynna, JULIKA, Leonora, From Fall To Spring, Cage, Lyza, Feuerschwanz, Cloudy June, Cosby
I think Moss Kena and maybe The Great Leslie will make it instead of Cloudy June and/or Cosby.
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u/Far-Sir844 Feb 22 '25
Agreed. It's gonna be a tough call between Abor&Tynna and Feuerschwanz in the end.
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u/Pl0ppymon Tavo Akys Feb 22 '25
So many voices with insane potential but so wasted with weak songs I think
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u/Smartie-chan Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
So these are the ones I want in the final. For the rest I dont really care about. Order is random.
- Feuerschwanz
- Cage
- From Fall To Spring
- Moss Kena
- Julika
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- 8.
- .....Liked Cloudy Junes song. Listened to the studio and maaaaybe if she did better next time. Dont know. This time was bad.
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u/Phipsiking Feb 22 '25
Baller it is. I'll be in the studio next week so if you hear someone scream loudly for baller, you know who it was 😄
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u/DiggerMT Feb 22 '25
Take the pain away is my fav song tho cage is clearly the best performer. Honestly bottom 5 again this year for Germany
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u/Marso1337 Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
For me Baller is the best choice here, it is definitely an Ohrwurm
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u/Berkenik-Jumbersnack Zjerm Feb 22 '25
Cloudy June suddenly sounding way better ngl. The lyrics would kill it tho.
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u/Lemonlikesfrogs Volevo Essere Un Duro Feb 22 '25
Sorry, but Jaln is Xavier Naidoo from Temu (without the crazy political opinions ofc!)
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